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Zimmerman Trial Update: State's Attempted Railroading Goes Off the Rails
ClashDaily.com ^ | 7/8/13 | Donald Joy

Posted on 07/08/2013 5:10:03 PM PDT by IChing

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To: Defiant

Hmmm.


81 posted on 07/08/2013 7:45:37 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Defiant

>>Is there a difficulty in re-creating the kind of screaming he made that night?<<

In a word, YES! One of the voice recognition experts said that trying to do research on subject screaming in abject terror would never get by the reseach ethics committees. :-)


82 posted on 07/08/2013 7:47:32 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: IChing

Thank-you for the day’s synopsis.
I have read that Tracy Martin testified that either he called or had his girlfriend, Brand Green, call the juvenile detention center where she works to see if Trayvon was there.
Can you clear up whether or not this is true.
Thanks so much!


83 posted on 07/08/2013 7:50:02 PM PDT by robbi
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To: Aunt Polgara

Good point, possible withdrawal = possible high irritability and edginess, etc. But I’m inclined to attribute TM’s violent attack on Zimmerman more to the same violent criminal subculture which gives us “the knockout game,” and “beat whitey night,” and “polar bear hunting.”


84 posted on 07/08/2013 7:50:19 PM PDT by IChing
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To: robbi

Think I heard something like that too, but I can’t confirm it.


85 posted on 07/08/2013 7:51:12 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

Thanks for the post. Nice work there.


86 posted on 07/08/2013 7:57:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

My pleasure, Lancey, and thank you.


87 posted on 07/08/2013 7:59:34 PM PDT by IChing
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To: viaveritasvita
wet grass!?? Does it make a sound?

No, but you sure think you hear it making sounds.

88 posted on 07/08/2013 8:25:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Just checking in, and only up to this post. Want to remind all that HE is not posting from HIS blog!

He posts to just another website, like Hot Air, American Thinker, PJMedia, or any of the others where people post articles they think might be of interest to Freepers.

But, for the sake of keeping Freeper peace, I will do my best to post a link to his articles, just as if I were posting a link to WND, Zero Hedge, The Daily Caller, etc.

I am delighted, because Donald Joy is my first born son. He has always been good with pen and paper - writing, and it makes me happy that some find his summaries of the Zimmerman helpful.

Not all of us can afford sit with numb, blue butts in front of the TV or ‘net all day long.

I don’t understand why people accuse him of pimping a blog he does not have. Can anyone explain this to me? I have been here long enough - even before my “sign up” date as jacquej.

First, I was housemouse, and wish I could have that “hat” and my original sign up date back, but not worth putting Jim and John through that hassle. They have enough to do to put up with the lot of us!

Now back to reading the gratuitous insults being tossed around. Seems silly to me, considering the catastrophic problems we are facing in our beloved country. Some of you really need to lighten up!


89 posted on 07/08/2013 8:25:53 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: UCANSEE2

wonderful come-back!

Ask IChing about the poor baby-sitter that had to put up with the four of them - he could tell you stories of what that poor girl went through!

She surely earned her way into heaven. His little brother was the baby-sitter’sworst nightmare!

Fortunately, and maybe thanks to her patience, he turned out ok.


90 posted on 07/08/2013 8:30:45 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: peeps36

91 posted on 07/08/2013 8:47:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: ping jockey
Little thug also had THC in his system. Now they need to know the concentrations. If it was on the upper side then he was high or had been high withing the last 4 to 6 hrs. Could explain the trip to the mini mart. Could explain the skittles. Could explain the lack of judgement it requires to attack a dog in his on yard.

All good points.

92 posted on 07/08/2013 8:51:38 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: IChing
I've been catching on to that just this evening. As I said, I haven't been going to the link because you provided the entire article, and we were having some good discussions and debates, which is the one of the main reasons I'm on F.R.

Thank you for giving a thorough explanation.

93 posted on 07/08/2013 8:54:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In a sane world, 99 percent of the evidence is not needed. You need one guy, the one who saw Trayvon on top pounding GZ, and then you have the wounds on his nose and the back of his head. Boom! no way to ever, ever, ever get past the burden of proof. Prosecutor should decline to prosecute on that alone.

But this is not a sane world, governed by the rule of law. It is a dumbed down idiocracy, governed by the rule of sex ed teachers and commie journalists. They could still get a conviction in that world if they convince a group of dimwits that GZ started it by following a guy because he was black. If you had a jury of Jeantals, you could tell them to assume that Trayvon was beating the hell out of GZ, that there was video of it, but they would still want to know why GZ got out of the jeep and whether it was because Trayvon was black. If so, then GZ should fry.

As a result, the defense clearly feels the need for overkill, to beat it into the heads of the dummies that GZ is innocent and to give them no excuses to buy into some prosecution theory that isn't even legally supported--like GZ is guilty because he followed Trayvon. So that is why they had 4 people saying it was GZ's voice, not one or two. And that is why it would be sweet to have that lying money grubber Mrs. Fulton on the stand and play a tape that you recently recorded of Zimmerman, and have her identify it as her son's. The defense doesn't want to win under the actual rules, it wants to embarrass the other side into submission. It may be a good idea, if they do it well enough, it may just keep the riots from happening.

94 posted on 07/08/2013 9:03:44 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Defiant
Is there a difficulty in re-creating the kind of screaming he made that night?

Unfortunately, yes. The level of adrenaline in a person is a true fear-for-life situation cannot be simulated, and it affects every muscle in the body including those that are used while screaming. IOW it would be a horrible risk for the defense that they have no cause to take.

Good idea, though. No sarc.

95 posted on 07/08/2013 9:13:07 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Really, I’ve seen violent potheads dozens of times. My brother was like a crackhead when just smoking homegrown pot.


96 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:06 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: piytar

I would give it a try and then compare the two recordings. If he can’t recreate it, he can’t. Maybe they did try it, we wouldn’t know if they did.


97 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:28 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: humblegunner

Piss off, no one wants to hear your whiney crap. You contribute nothing to FR but have time to pick at everyone else. Go eat some cheese!


98 posted on 07/08/2013 9:23:29 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: packrat35; humblegunner

Thanks, packrat. You speak what many of us are thinking, but too polite to say.

But in memory of my two very southern grandmothers, I will say this, in my best southern accent to our very own humblegunner...

“Bless your heart, dear, for we all know you mean so well”


99 posted on 07/08/2013 9:44:34 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej; packrat35; humblegunner

humblegunner does one hell of a job exposing POS blog pimps.

As my southern grandmothers would say,

“Lil’ fellers like you should be seen and not heard especially around grownups. Not toddle off wee ones.”


100 posted on 07/08/2013 9:52:10 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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