It’s personal w you & Butter, isn’t it, LL?
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen anything—even something minor—amiss w Obama’s records? Or in your mind is it a case of pristine, perfectly in-order records across the board, called into question only as an exercise in birther silliness?
Put another way. Do you see Obama as basically honest or dishonest? If you see him as honest...are you serious? After watching him for five or six yrs, you actually believe he is straightforward, aboveboard, truthful & trustworthy? Cite your reasons, please.
If dishonest, then answer this. Do you think he’s often engaged in shading or distorting the truth, or outright lying [as in his repeated statements that the Republicans, not his own WH, proposed sequester], but in one area he’s the model of integrity: i.e.: the area that deals w his birth, his records, his draft registration, etc.?
I’m genuinely curious about all this. I used to be a liberal myself. I was never so far gone, though, that I couldn’t see if a person was overall honest or dishonest. Even during my most passionately liberal days, there were Dems I didn’t like. For example, I recall a Dem primary for governor of MA, and I favored one candidate over the other because he was the more honest od the two.
So I’m asking you, as a former liberal to a current liberal, are you aware of the times when Obama out & out lies? Is that okay w you, ‘because they all do it’? Or do you actually see him as more honest than the typical pol, & therefore above pulling any funny business w, for instance, his draft registration.
Thank you in advance.
Not at all. Can you find anything I have ever said to her that would support such an accusation?
Let me ask you something. Put another way. Do you see Obama as basically honest or dishonest? If you see him as honest...are you serious? After watching him for five or six yrs, you actually believe he is straightforward, aboveboard, truthful & trustworthy? Cite your reasons, please.
I do not see Obama as basically honest, and have never said anything, on this or any other forum, that would support such a claim.
If dishonest, then answer this. Do you think he’s often engaged in shading or distorting the truth, or outright lying [as in his repeated statements that the Republicans, not his own WH, proposed sequester], but in one area he’s the model of integrity: i.e.: the area that deals w his birth, his records, his draft registration, etc.?
There is a difference between lying about his political opponents and masterminding a wide-ranging conspiracy involving hundreds of people that has altered (as Butterdezilion claims) the copies of every newspaper with his birth announcements in libraries around the world. I find some of Butterdezilion's theories far-fetched, and I don't think they add to the credibility of those of us who oppose Obama on political grounds.
So I’m asking you, as a former liberal to a current liberal,
I've been posting of FR since 1998. Please cite some basis for accusing me of being a liberal.
are you aware of the times when Obama out & out lies? Is that okay w you, ‘because they all do it’? Or do you actually see him as more honest than the typical pol, & therefore above pulling any funny business w, for instance, his draft registration. Thank you in advance.
Obama's lies are not OK with me. I have never said that Obama doesn't lie; of course he does.
I am a lawyer. My posts on eligibility threads (including this one) are almost 100% on the legal issues involved. My predictions about what courts would do have been 100% right for as long as I have been posting on eligibility threads (which has been more than four years now.
I have no idea if Obama's draft registration is OK or not; I am not a forensic document examiner, and I have never posted any comment on that issue one way or another. I do know that any discrepancy in the draft records of a sitting President is not something that gives any U.S. court jurisdiction to remove the President from office.