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1 posted on 03/25/2013 8:57:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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The end of morality...that inner conscience that tells you "ain't right"...and government imposed.

Very unconstitutional.

2 posted on 03/25/2013 8:59:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Well, I predict some 5-4 votes on these cases.

Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor will vote for homosexual marriage, no question on them.

Alito, Scalia, and Thomas will vote that there is no constitutional right to homosexual marriage.

Justices Kennedy and John Roberts will be the deciding votes, which ever way it goes.

It really disturbs me that these cases are discussed in terms of policy, i.e. activists in favor of gay marriage want the judges to vote for same, rather than on any legal grounds. The homosexual activists want them to vote for same sex marriage as a policy matter. They want the Court to ignore all manner of legal proceedings, laws passed by numerous states on the subject of marriage, etc. They want the Court to rule that states have no right to make marriage and family law, because of the need to impose homosexual marriage as an explicit policy of this country.

I mention family law too, because if homosexual marriage is imposed by these rulings, then follow up lawsuits on subjects such as homosexual adoption will follow. Again, states will be in a position in which they will be told they are not allowed to make family law or policy, because such laws or policies may conflict with what homosexual activists want.


6 posted on 03/25/2013 9:08:33 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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While I am completely against gay marriage, perspective demands that we keep sight of what is ACTUALLY killing marriage....

DIVORCE.

Those words, “until death do us part” mean absolutely nothing to most people today. I cannot believe the casualness with which people I work with discuss divorce. I’m afraid that to much (if not most) of our society, marriage has fallen into the same category as leasing a car. We’ll try it for a while, and if we don’t like it, just cancel the contract.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 9:09:17 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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I have been saying this for a long time: If they allow "same-sex marriage" to become legal throughout the U.S., then there will be no legal grounds to prevent any other combination of adults to be termed "marriage".

So, I agree with this article, that same-sex "marriage" is the death-knell of "marriage".

For those who think that Churches will be exempted from this; think again. The gays have convinced the elites who run this country that "gay marriage" is a "civil right". That will top any of our actual Constitutional rights. Just ask the Catholic Bishops who are now suing against the Obamacare mandate on them providing contraception and abortion coverage. Religious freedom --- nah.

15 posted on 03/25/2013 9:28:18 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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While gays and lesbians probably make up 2% of the population (I know, they say 10%, but anybody with eyes can look around and see that 1 out of 10 people they know aren’t gay), according to the census, only 1% of the “couples” in this country are same-sex couples. So it seems that even when it comes to “shacking up” (as most of these couples are, since gay marriage still isn’t widely accepted), gays enter committed relationships at half the rate of opposite-sex couples.

Nobody is really maintaining a good statistic on gays who choose to actually get married where it is legal, compared to normal marriages. Or the divorce rate in those families compared to normal families. Because that wouldn’t help the cause.


16 posted on 03/25/2013 9:29:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Another probably more interesting statistic. These are all from the Census, so they are based on private data, these people aren’t admitting to things publicly.

But if you look at where people say they are couples, the percentages are higher in states where the gay agenda is actively pushed on the populace. Which could be interpreted as showing that people tend to be gay if it is “acceptable” at higher rates than they would be if it was not.

Of course, that goes against the “it’s never a choice” argument.

Of course, it could be that people just move to where it is acceptable. That’s a good interpretation as well, and shows how important it would be to allow each state to decide for themselves, and not make gay marriage a federal law.


19 posted on 03/25/2013 9:32:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I would rather do away with marriage completely than have homosexual marriage. Do away with tax benefits, estate benefits, etc., then everyone would be equal.

I am sick to death of this homosexual crap everywhere!!! I can’t turn on the TV without seeing it or pick up a magazine or go on the internet. And then you see liberal France with thousands of people protesting against it.

America is doomed.


23 posted on 03/25/2013 9:39:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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48 posted on 03/25/2013 3:54:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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“’Marriage equality’ becomes ‘marriage elasticity,’ with the ultimate goal of ‘marriage extinction.’”

That about sums it up. Their real goal is to abolish of special status for the God-given and created institution of the natural family and replace it with the state.


54 posted on 03/25/2013 7:07:59 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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If the word "marriage" were to mean two sex perverts having a ceremony that pronounces them (husband and husband? wife and wife? or ?) and they are legally recognized as a married couple just as a married man and woman, then marriage would mean nothing at all.

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65 posted on 03/26/2013 6:21:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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“Gay Marriage” may be “gay” but it ain’t “marriage.”


66 posted on 03/26/2013 6:27:38 PM PDT by EDINVA
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