[drypowder]

Obozocare, the national debt, the creeping erosion of our freedom, cost of living skyrocketing, the unemployment rate, the adminstrations selective enforcement of our laws, obozo’s constant lies, illegal invasion of Lybia, his first term was failure after failure for this country and our law. Given the turnout of the crowds prior to the election where Romney and Ryan had thousands showing up at every ralley and obozo and Biden turnouts had mere hundreds showing up at theirs, what did that say with respect to who the people no longer trusted and who they intended to choose on election day. With that and as long as electronic programmable vote and vote counting machines are the predominant means of casting and tallying votes and the allowed stuffing of absentee ballots, it will be hard to convince me and whole lot of other people that the 2012 election was not stolen. Obviously the people didn't like Romney because he is establishment but the mood was that the people have had enough of the obozo and his Marxist policies. Obozo owes many thanks to Mr. Soros, Mr. Hagel and the Dibold Corp. Not to be contentious but maybe it might do for you to reconsider where your hat hangs.

[Longbow1969]

Given the turnout of the crowds prior to the election where Romney and Ryan had thousands showing up

That does not measure depth of support, only intensity of supporters. You know who else had massive rallies right up to election day? George McGovern. That didn't work out so well for him did it. Nader could fill arena's during his presidential runs, but that didn't amount to squat. Heck Ron Paul could get huge crowds near college campuses, but again, that just shows what followers he has are intense about him.

With that and as long as electronic programmable vote and vote counting machines are the predominant means of casting and tallying votes and the allowed stuffing of absentee ballots, it will be hard to convince me and whole lot of other people that the 2012 election was not stolen.

The same thing the Democrats said when they lost the off year elections in 2002 and the presidential election in 2004. Kerry had huge crowds, and the intensity of an opposition and media that hated Bush with a passion - he still lost. The left blamed Diebold and other nefarious plots with voting machines. They didn't really let go of their "black box voting" conspiracies till they started winning again in 2006.

We are simply following along the same path Europe is. They are voting secular socialist, and we are doing the same. I understand it is hard to accept that the American public is so far gone, but think about how dramatically the demographics have changed. Look at California. California is in the gutter yet just voted for a Democratic legislative super majority. It ain't vote fraud man, its a public that is growing increasingly ethnic, ignorant and dependent. Sorry, but that's the reality. We're just not the same country we once were.