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To: Smokeyblue

I suggest that you take a look at the Verification of Birth (http://www.scribd.com/doc/96200621/2012-06-06-MDEC-Motion-to-Supplement-Response-to-Motion-for-Sanctions-S-D-Miss) that the State of Hawaii provided to the attorneys for the Mississippi Democratic Party. In it Onaka wrote:

Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-14.3, I verify the following:

1. The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

2. The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached to your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

Moreover, above his signature, it states:

I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event.


166 posted on 01/30/2013 7:42:09 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic; palmer; butterdezillion

There is no need to respond to you two but for the lurkers out there, here is a link to explain the issue as written by Butterdezillion:

An article which helps explain why neither MDEC’s verification nor Kobach’s means anything:

http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf

Link to the PDF: http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/kansas-verification.pdf

Link to Klayman’s letter, which Kobach received on Sept 7th: http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf

And a previous thread about the topic.

Kansas Verification Works for Non-Valid Record Too

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2934384/posts


185 posted on 01/31/2013 8:02:36 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: ConstantSkeptic

You’ve had all this explained to you. YOu are either too stupid to understand it, or too “invested” (shall we say) to accept it. You never rebut anything; just keep bringing up the same stuff that destroys your argument - as we’ve already explained from the statutes and from other verifications.

The MDEC attorneys requested no fact of birth to be verified and the certifying statement in their letter of verification said “I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event.”

That’s a standard certifying statement and it was used even when there were NO “facts of the vital event” that were verified. That shows that the statement means, “If I verified any facts, it was from looking at the information in the vital record.” But they didn’t verify any birth facts. They verified the existence of a record, and they verified that the information on a White House BLOG page “matched” the information in the official record.

But “matches” is not the same thing as “is identical to”, because Onaka would not verify for KS SOS Kobach that the information was “identical”. AND he wouldn’t use the official White House web site for Kobach, either - switched it to refer to the White House BLOG page.

The MDEC letter of verification is totally worthless. We have no idea what “matches” means in Onaka’s mind but it clearly isn’t “identical”, which defies the point that MDEC tries to make. And even though MDEC told the HDOH they needed the letter of verification because Obama’s true birth facts are in question in the lawsuit, the MDEC attorneys were very, very careful to not ever ask for any true birth facts to actually be verified.

IF the claims were identical and IF the actual record was valid, this verification could legally mean something. But in other verifications Onaka revealed that neither “IF” was true. The claims are NOT identical, and the record is NOT valid.

The MDEC verification is a false flag, and the way they did it was actually what convinced me that they understood Obama’s BC to be non-valid, based on Onaka’s response to AZ SOS Bennett.

This has all been explained to you and you’re not going to budge because you’re a troll. WE all know that already. I say these things for the sake of any lurkers.


188 posted on 01/31/2013 9:14:34 AM PST by butterdezillion
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