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Team Arpaio: New Evidence Will Convince Greatest Skeptic Document Is 100% Forgery
BirtherReport.com ^ | January 27, 2013 | Unattributed/Mike Zullo

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:25:19 AM PST by Seizethecarp

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To: butterdezillion

Zullo hasn’t gotten a dime from this, and has spent plenty on it. His motivation is justice and truth.


Not everyone is as selfless as you.

Zullo and Jerome Corsi came out with an e-book at the same time as Arpaio and Zullo held their first press conference. Zullo and Corsi continue to split the profits from sales of that book.


101 posted on 01/27/2013 8:50:08 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

All of Zullo’s portion goes to his church. This wasn’t about making money; it was about getting the book on Amazon, in an attempt to not just “preach to the choir”.


102 posted on 01/27/2013 8:55:10 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If their goal was to spread the information as widely as possible, why charge for the book?


103 posted on 01/27/2013 8:59:34 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

They couldn’t get it on Amazon without charging for it.

What they really wanted was for the media to simply report this stuff, but they wouldn’t. Probably had something to do with the fact that Andrew Breitbart dropped dead less than 5 hours after telling Arpaio his evidence was good, and Rush Limbaugh got what was treated as a bomb threat because it referred to 2 famous assassinations - all on the same day as Arpaio’s first presser...


104 posted on 01/27/2013 9:08:42 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

But $9.99?

I still say they’re running a scam. You can be the first to say “I told you so!” if this investigation leads to anything more than press releases, but I’m not going to hold my breath waiting.


105 posted on 01/27/2013 9:27:54 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic
Your taking the time to provide a well-written comment/rebuttal is to your credit. By the same token however, your handle would appear to be somewhat of a misnomer if you're not highly skeptical of the "Obama" birth and life narrative. Case in point:

"There were legitimate questions raised about Obama’s background when he started running for the presidency, but ultimately I decided that he was born in Hawaii and all the brouhaha over his birth was just a distraction to the real issues facing the nation.

On what basis did you "decide" that, ConstantSkeptic?

"As far as Zullo, he’s a con man. Pure and simple."

So you're saying his boss, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is also a con man, correct? Did you even watch the Cold Case Posse pressers on their findings?

Perhaps you're not an Obot/distruptor and are merely being simultaneously credulous and willfully obtuse regarding the veracity of the "Obama" nativity story. Whatevs. Shaking the dust off my sandals now. . .

106 posted on 01/27/2013 9:28:45 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: Logical me

> Me too! This whole political thing is just BS and wait, and wait, and wait, nothing but wait.

Donald Trump’s big surprises never amounted to anything much if at all...


107 posted on 01/27/2013 9:31:24 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

The fact that the State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that Obama was born there is sufficient for me. The full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution states that that is sufficient proof. I would have to believe in an unbelievable amount of fraud and cover-up to believe that Hawaii is lying. I know that lots of folks believe that there’s a grand conspiracy here. I don’t. There are a lot of conservatives who share my belief that Obama was born in Hawaii. It’s not strictly a liberal belief!

As far as Arpaio, I think he has his own agenda. If he truly had evidence, then why hasn’t it gone anywhere?


108 posted on 01/27/2013 9:58:06 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Seizethecarp

It is becoming obvious that ignoring the “get it right the first time” has not produced a valid plan / strategy / organization / fact collection that will generate a successful solution to the problem. Reasons and excuses for failure will not cut it. Success will be achieved only if correctly addressed up front with full analysis of the potential strategies / actions of the opposing side.


109 posted on 01/27/2013 10:02:11 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: Seizethecarp

It is becoming obvious that ignoring the “get it right the first time” has not produced a valid plan / strategy / organization / fact collection that will generate a successful solution to the problem. Reasons and excuses for failure will not cut it. Success will be achieved only if correctly addressed up front with full analysis of the potential strategies / actions of the opposing side.


110 posted on 01/27/2013 10:08:52 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

The full faith and credit clause states that there must be a way of verifying documents and so far, Hawaii has NOT legally verified any alleged birth certificate for Obama NOR have they ever LEGALLY verified he was born in Hawaii. Under Federal Rules of Evidence (one way of satisfying the full faith and credit clause), if someone claims to a fact through a certified document (such as a birth record) then those who challenge it in court have a right to inspect that record. Consider the refusal by Hawaii and Obama to submit an official copy of that record in ANY court of law to be quite telling of what the record does not and cannot prove.


111 posted on 01/27/2013 11:05:13 PM PST by edge919
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To: ConstantSkeptic

But $9.99?

I still say they’re running a scam.
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It’s marketing , if they sold it for $0.01 people would think it was worth $0.01 .... As to the “scam” remark ,, who would run a scam where all of the money goes to a charity and they KNOW the target of the investigation will at the very least verify that’s where the funds went. Arpaio is a true American hero, read his history...


112 posted on 01/28/2013 3:47:05 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

The fact that the State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that Obama was born there is sufficient for me. The full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution states that that is sufficient proof. I would have to believe in an unbelievable amount of fraud and cover-up to believe that Hawaii is lying.
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Substitute “global warming” for the subject matter and “scientists/universities/gov’t” for Hawaii see if what you said makes any sense.. it’s not like this is anything new.


113 posted on 01/28/2013 3:53:22 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Au contraire. The Hawaii state registrar has actually indirectly confirmed in a legal document that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid and has confirmed in 2 legal documents that the White House image is a forgery.

Which is probably why somebody at the HDOH has deliberately added names from non-valid BC’s onto their 1960-64 birth index - as I’ve proven on my blog by showing that Norman and Nathan Asing are the birth names of adoptees and thus those names are on non-valid records.

In addition, we’ve got 4 1961 BC#’s that the HDOH has put on copies they’ve issued.... that could not have been on those particular BC’s in 1961. IOW, the HDOH has switched around at least 4 Aug 1961 BC#’s, including Obama, Stig Waidelich, Virginia Sunahara, and Johanna Ah Nee. The 2 long-forms have blatant signs of forgery on them - apparently from a resistant HDOH worker or possibly Onaka himself (Obama’s BC has TXE in the certifying statement and a smiley face in Onaka’s signature, and Ah Nee’s BC has 2 BC# digits overlapping and a signature that doesn’t look like Onaka’s handwriting). Sunahara’s BC# was found on a death certificate that had 3 blatant signs of forgery on the same line as the BC# was handwritten on: T. H. for Territory of Hawaii on a death certificate from the State of Hawaii, and mismatched and misaligned fonts for FILE and NO. right next to T. H. ) Virginia Sunahara was born on Aug 4, 1961 and died one day later, and the HDOH is refusing to let her brother see her original birth certificate, claiming that the records are “too fragile” to survive if anybody was allowed to see them. Never mind that the paper records have been microfilmed and scanned so that the paper records don’t have to come into play at all.

The only lawful reason for any one of those people to have a BC# different than the one they were given in 1961 is if law enforcement requested a new BC to be fabricated in order to protect the registrant from imminent harm, in which case a BC is made up which says whatever law enforcement says it should say, and a different BC# is given to the fictitious BC so that the real BC remains in effect and available to somebody who knows what is claimed on it. IOW, Eric Holder or Janet Napolitano probably told the HDOH worker what they had to put on a fabricated BC for Obama. It has no resemblance to what is on the real record for Obama, if there even is one.


114 posted on 01/28/2013 4:44:25 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp

Seriously? The stupid and uninformed don’t really care who’s legal or what’s forged as long as they keep getting their free stuff. I love Arpaio - but - this will go nowhere just like the rest of the information about the birth certificate.


115 posted on 01/28/2013 4:49:36 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: JohnnyP

“Orly jumped the gun before there was solid verification, no doubt alerting the data scrubbers, so it will be a miracle if there is anything left to uncover.”

How reliable is the data if it can be scrubbed?

SSA has data sharing agreements with state vital statistic records databases, DHS and DoS. Not to mention the fact that SSA records are not scrubbed or deleted. They can be updated and corrected, but there is a data trail.

Obama’s SS-5 application is helpful, but his NUMIDENT File is chronological history of his life.


116 posted on 01/28/2013 6:20:54 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: edge919; butterdezillion

If Obama is ever required to produce his birth certificate in court, I believe that he will produce one from Hawaii stating that he was born there.

The Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution requires the court to treat that birth certificate with the same respect that the court has to birth certificates of its own state. The birth certificate will be self-authenticating and prima facie evidence. Anyone challenging that birth certificate will have to come up with their own evidence that the facts on the birth certificate are somehow false. A newspaper from Kenya, for example, will not trump the official record of a state. Assertions and speculation won’t do. You need something to PROVE that the state records are false. That’s a mighty tall challenge. What proof do you think a court will accept over its official state records?


117 posted on 01/28/2013 6:47:17 AM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Seizethecarp

The signs of forgery/fraud were obvious THE DAY it was released.

Examples. Videos released THE DAY the LFBC came out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

Layers, clipping mask, identical letters, etc, etc.

Hack fake.


118 posted on 01/28/2013 7:00:57 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: Seizethecarp

So?
When major media can publish a forged document and defend it as “fake, but true” they are not going have a problem with a forced Birth Certificate from the “First Black President.”


119 posted on 01/28/2013 7:10:55 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: bluecat6

Another one from the day after it was released.

I like the way this one ends. Its like the end of a high dive. He nails it with his final comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k8T7tjTEg

So within hours of release most image oriented computer people knew what was released was a fraud.


120 posted on 01/28/2013 7:24:21 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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