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Bobby Jindal - GOP Needs To Stop Being The Stupid Party
Political Realities ^ | 01/25/13 | LD Jackson

Posted on 01/25/2013 4:57:01 AM PST by LD Jackson

I'm sure by now that most everyone has heard about Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and his remarks at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting in Charlotte, North Carolina. Before I get to the bulk of my post, let me preface it by saying I am not endorsing or disregarding Governor Jindal's remarks. I do, however, believe they merit a discussion. To do anything less is to be naive about the condition of the Republican Party. Changes, you say? Yes, I said the changes the Republican Party needs to make. If we do not, we may as well resign our party to the trash heap of history. Let's look at what Bobby Jindal had to say.

(Hot Air) “We do not need to change what we believe as conservatives – our principles are timeless,” Jindal says. “But we do need to re-orient our focus to the place where conservatism thrives: in the real world beyond the Washington Beltway.” …

“Today’s conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget, the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs,” he says. “We seem to have an obsession with government bookkeeping. This is a rigged game, and it is the wrong game for us to play.” …

“The Republican Party must become the party of growth, the party of a prosperous future that is based in our economic growth and opportunity that is based in every community in this great country and that is not based in Washington, D.C.,” Jindal says.

Not included the quote I used above is where Jindal said "We've got to stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults." Again, I say there is merit in Jindal's words.

JindalCan anyone say they honestly believe the GOP needs to make changes to the way it operates? I mean, seriously, after the drubbing we received last November, do we really believe we can stay on the same course we are on and expect to strengthen our numbers in the House and possibly win the Senate in 2014? Do we really believe we can continue the same path and expect to defeat whomever is the Democratic presidential candidate in 2016? If we do, then Bobby Jindal is correct; we are the stupid party.

I have read some of the comments on the Hot Air post I linked to and I can't help but wonder where some people's heads are. Some are already discounting Jindal from consideration in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he hasn't even said he will be running. All of the vitriol, just because he has the nerve to suggest we need to make some changes to our party. From reading some of the comments, you would think he was akin to Attila The Hun.

I'm not talking about changing the conservative principles in which we believe and I do not think that is what Bobby Jindal was saying. He just things we need to change tactics and honestly, can we look at where the Republican Party is and say he is wrong? I think he is closer to the truth than many of us may want to admit.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; gop

1 posted on 01/25/2013 4:57:12 AM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

I love what he says about the real world and that government bookkeeping is a rigged game. I resent his straw arguments about “stupid” and wonder who he means by that. Often, Jindal has himself been stupid.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 4:59:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: LD Jackson
The GOP is more stupid than conservative, proven by RomneyCARE=ObamaCARE
which it IMPOSED on the People ... and then lied about it.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 5:02:43 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Often, Jindal has himself been stupid.

Lots of folks have been stupid in their lives. It's the ones who remain stupid that are in the most trouble. The first step in solving a problem is to admit you have one.

4 posted on 01/25/2013 5:03:57 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: LD Jackson

Both parties are STUPID as far as I am concerned. There are no representatives in either house that votes for their constituents, they vote party line on every issue, as directed by the party czars.....


5 posted on 01/25/2013 5:11:32 AM PST by vet7279
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To: LD Jackson
"GOP Needs To Stop Being The Stupid Party"

The GOP needs to stop being the Gutless Coward Party. Start practicing conservative principles, and among them, publicly recognize Barry's gang of thugs and the Demonicrat party as lying, murderous traitors to the United States of America. One of the (likely long-term) goals then will be to bring these traitors and their co-conspirators to justice by trial and jury convictions.

6 posted on 01/25/2013 5:11:45 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I couldn’t agree more. If we continue hiding our heads in the sand, we will never get out of the desert.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 5:13:20 AM PST by LD Jackson
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Well thank you Mr. Beck - but you totally 100% without a doubt missed my point. Jindal has never admitted HIS problem, and is projecting it onto mysterious unnamed “stupid Republicans.” Jindal has stepped into it on immigration, Jindal stepped into it in the Gulf, cornering Obama on two occasions then letting him off the hook. Jindal, and his inner Chris Christie streak, emerges at all the wrong times. Jindal is one of the sick ones, and he has not figured it out yet.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 5:16:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: LD Jackson

Yes, but listening to those whose head is in the sand is not the right thing to do, even if they say a few cogent words from time to time.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 5:17:42 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Well said!!!


10 posted on 01/25/2013 5:26:22 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: LD Jackson
Do you really think any of the resulting changes will move the approach toward the conservative? I don't.
11 posted on 01/25/2013 5:26:56 AM PST by j_tull (The smart money these days is in brass and lead.)
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To: LD Jackson

Jindal ought to practice what he preaches!


12 posted on 01/25/2013 5:38:33 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: vet7279
There are no representatives in either house that votes for their constituents, they vote party line on every issue, as directed by the party czars.....

I disagree,strongly. There are a lot of very good people in the House, and a handful in the Senate. We are no where near a majority, though. The powerful do their best to silence or remove the good ones, though. We saw a purge of several very good people through redistricting last year because they actually spoke out in committees and didn't 'hold the party line.' I cringe when people make the blanket statement 'throw them all out'. There are many good, principled people out there. Not enough, but we are a hell of a lot better off than we were a few years ago.

13 posted on 01/25/2013 5:40:00 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The “stupid” are the ones who nominated Romney, doing the same old, same old which had already shown that it didn’t work,

I think he’s right; people’s eyes are glazing over because we’re just going on about the numbers now and not challenging the whole premise of Obama’s statist vision.

We’re already acting as if that’s inevitable (which is why a statist like Romney got the nomination) and it’s just a matter of figuring out how to pay for it. But in reality, a lot of Americans don’t like the statist idea, deep down inside, and if we offered them an alternative vision, we’d get support.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 5:40:24 AM PST by livius
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To: LD Jackson

What good is it to elect Republicans who think like Democrats?

Electing Republicans like John McCain, Lyndsey Graham, Kirk,and others is the same as electing Democrats.

Many of these Obama ass kissers who call themselves Republicans get to stay in office because they deliver the pork to their states.

Pork is what gets incumbents re-elected.Not their party affiliation.

People like pork ,feed them pork and they would return Musselini to office. That is what is killing America.

Republicans who have been around a long time living off opf taxpayers and feeding them pork to stay there. That is the first thing learned in the halls of the Capitol;.

Well folks the pork is running out. When we go bankrupt there will be no pork.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 5:40:31 AM PST by Venturer
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To: LD Jackson

I like Bobby Jindahl. I understand what he means. But not only do we need to be the party of growth and ideas, we need a good housecleaning from within. Those that continually pick the candidates (The “It’s his turn mentality”), to the exclusion of all others, those that ‘tut-tut’ over the Tea Party citizens and the sniping and general takedown of people like Sarah Palin need to be rooted out.

Good article!


16 posted on 01/25/2013 5:43:12 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Diogenesis

If you don’t think the gop is stupid, maybe he meant you.

The man is a minority and lives in a party that lets racist democrats call his party racist every day, and the gop response is to beg for forgiveness.

The gop is not only stupid, it is astoundingly stupid.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 5:49:48 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Venturer
I still believe in the Ross Perot party. Just the facts. The hard lesson we need to remember. Sucking Sound We might not win the next few elections but being steady and resilient. The third part will get seats in the house and senate. We need to change who we are and how we work.
18 posted on 01/25/2013 5:50:00 AM PST by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: LD Jackson
Some are already discounting Jindal from consideration in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he hasn't even said he will be running.

Two points.

1. Piyush Amrit “Bobby” Jindal

born June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, LA (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Amar Jindal born in India, naturalized Dec. 4, 1986
Raj Jindal born in India, naturalized Sept 21, 1976.

Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Bobby Jindal is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Bobby's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

2. Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.

19 posted on 01/25/2013 5:50:38 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: LD Jackson

An essential problem with what he says is that it is old style thinking. From the Great Depression to today, our economy has been based on deficit spending, as a *strategy*.

The two ways used to *manage* this deficit spending are, on one side, “increasing growth and productivity”, and on the other side, the Keynesian “increasing government spending and inflation.”

However, what was not known when this economic adventure began was that eventually, the debt would destroy it all.

But both sides seem to be obsessively locked into using either one or the other type of management they know; but the real solution lies outside of that. To a great extent they cannot even *imagine* going outside of that paradigm, or that there can even *be* something outside that paradigm.

Far in the background, though, there has been another voice, ignored by the two, that at least sees that the situation is heading to collapse, that our fiat currency based economy is falling apart.

But their failing is being stuck in a non-evolving economic concept, that somehow our economy and currency could again be backed by gold. Fundamentally correct, sort of, but there is just not enough gold in the world to even support the economy of one major country, much less the entire world.

What could work is instead starting with gold, but expanding to other physical resources as well. Iron and steel, aluminum, lumber and paper, etc. It is pretty easy to figure out what, because they already have substantial commodities markets.

Importantly, when initially stabilizing the economy, the emphasis would have to be on non-renewable resources, before it could grow into renewable resources. But at no time could it be allowed to expand into virtual or subjective resources, or we would be back to economic disaster.

Currency would have to be limited to just that physically backed and exchangeable for these resources. Margin would be forbidden as well as futures and derivatives.

All credit, government and private, would have to be backed with 110% collateral, using the old saying, “You cannot have credit unless you do not need it.” And such collateral cannot be speculative or subjective, either, and if its value dropped below its collateral support level, it would have to be reinforced with additional collateral or the credit would be called.

This is pretty strict stuff, with little or no money left over for gaming, reckless investment, or largess. But it is also extremely stable.

Something that will be like a breath of fresh air when the deficit economies of the world collapse.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 5:53:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: ASA Vet

Unless he knows beforehand, like he did in the 2012, that he will win again, there won’t be a 2016 election.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 5:54:34 AM PST by sport
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To: LD Jackson
“Today’s conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget, the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs,” he says. “We seem to have an obsession with government bookkeeping. This is a rigged game, and it is the wrong game for us to play.” … (My emphasis)

“The Republican Party must become the party of growth, the party of a prosperous future that is based in our economic growth and opportunity (My emphasis) that is based in every community in this great country and that is not based in Washington, D.C.,” Jindal says.

So, Jindal is ready to accept the crooked ways (rigged game) and fix the problem by.........hold on to your hats folks..............generating more revenue than the crooks can spend.

Brilliant, simply brilliant Republican logic. If that doesn't earn him the Nobel Prize in economics then at least a share with Bernie Maddoff.

22 posted on 01/25/2013 6:00:46 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: LD Jackson
We observe that the Republican Party performs actions which hamper the advancement of conservatism, and many label those actions "stupid". To call it "stupid", one must assume that the GOP intended to advance conservatism, and failed due to lack of intelligence.

My position is that the GOP-e is not stupid. They simply are not interested in conservatism. They are (first, last, and only) interested in maintaining the perks and benefits of being in politics, while avoiding those things that might get the real Powers in the country annoyed with them.

In other words, the ACTUAL purpose of the Republican Party is to maintain the PRETENSE of opposition to Socialism.

To observe the truth of this, observe how polite and non-confrontational most Repub candidates are towards the Dems, compared to how they behave towards more-conservative primary opponents.

23 posted on 01/25/2013 6:02:32 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: LD Jackson

Never trust a Rhodes scholar ....


24 posted on 01/25/2013 6:03:12 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: LD Jackson

Sound like he’s saying that we need to give more free stuff to Eric Holder’s people than the Democrats.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 6:06:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: LD Jackson

Jindal is the Indian Marco Rubio

He has PhonyCon RINOs convinced he is conservative...but he is as liberal on issues as Rubio. And he is not eligible to be President


26 posted on 01/25/2013 6:13:01 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: varon

What? He’s saying we have to increase people’s freedom to make money. I am not seeing the problem.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 6:13:56 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: LD Jackson
“Today’s conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget, the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs,” he says. “We seem to have an obsession with government bookkeeping. This is a rigged game, and it is the wrong game for us to play.” … (My emphasis)

“The Republican Party must become the party of growth, the party of a prosperous future that is based in our economic growth and opportunity (My emphasis) that is based in every community in this great country and that is not based in Washington, D.C.,” Jindal says.

So, Jindal is ready to accept the crooked ways (rigged game) and fix the problem by.........hold on to your hats folks..............generating more revenue than the crooks can spend.

Brilliant, simply brilliant Republican logic. If that doesn't earn him the Nobel Prize in economics then at least a share with Bernie Maddoff.

28 posted on 01/25/2013 6:18:25 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: LD Jackson
With the love feast we witnessed during Hillarys presence we have a huge problem. We need to rollup our sleeves and get to work on a conservative agenda and fight for our ideas not cower.

We are becoming Rome during Ceasar's time were money and corruption is rampant and politicians are afraid to act in fear of their very lives and fortunes. I believe we have many of our officials in this boat and it's time to either give them a life line or replace them and quickly.

29 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:16 AM PST by Moonbug
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To: livius
The “stupid” are the ones who nominated Romney

True, but let's remember that the ones who nominated Romney are those millions of registered Republicans who voted for him in a score of states.

There is a whole mess of educating to be done.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 6:45:19 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: ASA Vet

31 posted on 01/25/2013 6:48:00 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: livius

I agree with you on who the stupid ones are, but I doubt seriously that is who Jindal is referring to. I also agree with him on the glazed eye issues, which I stated in my original post. My take on him is that he agrees mostly with the establishment on what our problems are.


32 posted on 01/25/2013 7:34:53 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: ASA Vet
Bobby's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama

The President of the United States of America.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 11:02:16 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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