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To: jackv; All
"Beware of Hoaxes and possible scam artists
Posted on | December 30, 2012 | No Comments

There is an e-mail going around stating that AlvinOnaka confirmed that Obama’s ID is a forgery. It never happened. I received a copy of Onaka’s letter to Kobach and Bennett in my case against Kobach. Onaka never said that Obama’s papers are not valid. This is a wishful thinking or an attempt by someone to discredit us.

Additionally there is a letter by someone hiding behind a name ”Proof Positive”. This person is asking for money to send letters to Sheriff Arpaio and to Congress and convince them to act in regards to Obama’s forged IDs.

If you want to write to Arpaio or your Congressman, you can do it yourself. Why do you need to pay someone, who may be a scam artist. Moreover, as I said, Arpaio collected 7 million for his campaign. He went around the country showing forgery in Obama’s IDs and giving people an impression that he will be filling a criminal complaint before the election. Obama dismissed his law suit against Arpaio in August, Arpaio never filed any criminal comaplaint against Obama. People should not give Arpaio a cent more. Demand that he appear on January 3rd at the hearing with judge England, demand that he file a complaint with the DA, AG and US Attorney with his findings immediately or refund the 7 million that was collected under false pretenses.

Help me identify and expose the person hiding behind the news letter “Proof Positive”"

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=372395

27 posted on 12/30/2012 3:53:55 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Just when I had my hopes up.

Geeesh!


28 posted on 12/30/2012 5:19:01 PM PST by Jayster
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To: rxsid

Orly has been a determined worker and I admire that, but she hasn’t always gotten her details right. I suspect that she is so busy she has failed to make the FOIA requests to see Bennett’s COMPLETE request, or to look up the Hawaii statutes that govern how Onaka had to respond.

HRS 338-14.3 says that Onaka must verify any information submitted by a qualified applicant if he can certify that was the way the event actually happened - IOW if they have a legally valid record claiming that, since a legally valid record is prima facia evidence and thus has the presumption of accuracy (which is ultimately only overruled by evidence to the contrary).

Bennett sent in an application form for a verification, requesting that Onaka verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama. If any of those facts was claimed on a legally-valid record that specific fact would have to be verified by Onaka in his letter of verification, according to HRS 338-14.3.

The only one of those words that was even MENTIONED in Onaka’s verification was the word Honolulu (which shows that he was looking at the application and not just Bennett’s letter asking for ADDITIONAL verifications, since that letter didn’t mention Honolulu at all). But if Onaka was verifying that the birth city was Honolulu, then he would also have to verify that the birth island was Oahu, since Honolulu has always been on Oahu. He doesn’t. By this we can tell that all he verified through the use of the word “Honolulu” is the existence of a birth certificate which “indicates” (claims) a Honolulu birth. He’s verifying the existence of a birth certificate.

The fact that he leaves out all those other words (male, Aug 4, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama) - even though he verifies that those are indeed the CLAIMS on the record they have - means that the record they have has to be non-valid. If it was valid and claimed those things he would have had to verify each of those individual birth facts on his verification.

Attorney Larry Klayman’s letter to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer contains the documentation for all of this. It can be seen at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf

Another explanation to make the laws easier to understand can be seen at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf

What people need to know is that Onaka discloses things not only by what he says, but even moreso by what he DOESN’T say. Look on his verifications and you never see the words male, Aug 4, 1961, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, or Barack Hussein Obama. The only LAWFUL reason for him to leave out those facts is if he can’t verify them as true, and the only reason he couldn’t verify them as true if they are claimed on a record (as Onaka verified for Obama’s claimed facts) is if the record itself is legally non-valid.

This is not wishful thinking, nor is it an attempt to discredit anybody. It is a simple statement of Hawaii law.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 9:49:45 PM PST by butterdezillion
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