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I used to love the History channel. If we get a la carte programming, it might not make it to my carte!
1 posted on 12/02/2012 7:09:57 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

It’s a good thing nobody takes the “History” Channel seriously anymore.


2 posted on 12/02/2012 7:17:32 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: winner3000

The new and improved “REVISIONIST HISTORY” channel


3 posted on 12/02/2012 7:17:54 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: winner3000

The bottom line is this. Even is oliver stone was correct (snowball’s chance in hell of that ever happening) we still were justified in dropping the nukes. In fact, if we had 20 more nukes we would have been justified in dropping them too. Japan attacked us unprovoked. They forfeited all right to exist.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 7:30:52 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: winner3000

*** and they surrendered only after the 2nd bomb was dropped on them, it is the Soviet Union’s invasion of Manchuria that finally made them decide to surrender!***

Years go (early 1980s) I was listening to RADIO MOSCOW on my shortwave set.

Vladimir Pozner was giving his propaganda broadcast about how it was the Soviet invasion that caused the Japanese to surrender, not the nukes.

But then, no one could believe anything from RADIO MOSCOW at that time.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 7:36:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: winner3000

I saw a show several years back on the History or Discovery channels that speculated that Japan may have tested a small nuclear weapon in a harbor in Korea during WWII. They described the Japanese effort to develop nuclear weapons and they were further along than you might think. Read a little bit about how they treated American prisoners.


7 posted on 12/02/2012 7:38:33 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: winner3000

I have never understood this line of thought about the A-bomb attacks. If we would not have used the A-bomb LeMay would have firebombed those cities and others, probably killing as many people or more before forcing the surrender.


9 posted on 12/02/2012 7:49:27 PM PST by MCF
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To: winner3000

Those two bombs almost certainly saved my father’s life and the lives of millions of other soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. Look at the battles for Okinawa and Iwo Jima for a vision of what the invasion of Japan would’ve been like. And what’s wrong with “bamboozling” the Japanese and Soviets?


13 posted on 12/02/2012 9:04:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: winner3000
What hogwash.

The Japanese were preparing for an invasion. They would have fought for every inch, with a terrible cost in lives on both sides. My father was in the Pacific, and I probably would not be here had the planned US invasion gone ahead.

The US government ordered huge stockpiles of Purple Heart medals in anticipation of the campaign in the home islands. I believe that hoard of medals is still in use.

Were the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ghastly? Yes. Does anyone doubt that such a bomb would have been dropped on Berlin had it been developed earlier? I do not. The firebombings of Hamburg and Dresden were also horrific.

The alternatives to Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have been tens of millions of Japanese deaths and quite likely the destruction of Japanese culture.
15 posted on 12/02/2012 9:18:58 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: winner3000

His show is on Showtime. He’s a great fan of now known Communist sleeper agent Henry Wallace. Stone can’t get ‘Henry Wallace’s cock out of his mouth. Right, it’s sickening


26 posted on 12/02/2012 11:25:52 PM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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To: winner3000
We have been developing "A Patriot's History of the United States" miniseries for TV as an alternative. Here is the trailer

http://vimeo.com/40753311 (password "Rockin" if needed

We have enough connections---my "Rockin' the Wall" documentary is on PBS of all places right now---that we are sure we can get tis on screen. Citizens United is helping with this.

If you want to help or be a part of this, Freepmail me.

29 posted on 12/03/2012 3:43:10 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: winner3000

Point to be made is that the very war-like Japan has been very peaceful in the 70+ years since we nuked them. The Soviets too found the demonstration of willingness and capability very instructive.


30 posted on 12/03/2012 3:47:15 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: winner3000

Do not downplay Soviet factor. Original conventional allied plan against Japan was about landing a massive Soviet forces into mainland Japan. It was a really awful idea for the Japanese.


31 posted on 12/03/2012 4:17:53 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: winner3000
I recently re-watched another History offering, the Last Days of WWII. It took the opposite position. In fact, the Japanese weren't surrendering after the second bomb. The Emperor had to convene a meeting of the cabinet at which he basically ordered them to surrender before they finally did. Even then, a junior officer invaded to palace to try to stop it.
36 posted on 12/18/2012 5:48:37 PM PST by colorado tanker
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