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To: gusty
“The logic amazes me. You criticize Romney in paragraph two with a classic leftwing class warfare argument, with hands off my entitlements to boot.”

What I have is not an entitlement - I paid for my social security and I pay for Medicare every month.

With his present comments, he proved his earlier comment about the 47% (whatever number that was) that got government benefits so would not vote for him. His comment today was Obama gave people gifts so they would vote for him. You see, when anyone gets something from the government even though we paid for it, Romney sees it as a “gift” from the government. That is the business man in him - eliminate all that and save money.

Romney's social acceptance of homosexuals, helping pass a homo marriage bill when he was governor, approving homosexuals in the boy scouts, approving abortion until he ran for president, for gun control, passing government healthcare, etc., etc. He is a liberal.

22 posted on 11/15/2012 11:05:54 PM PST by Marcella ("When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Marcella

By definition SS and Medicare are entitlements. That is what they are called.That is the category they are listed under in the budget. By the time we shuffle off this mortal coil, a vast majority will collect way more than they paid in. The paid in part runs out, I will be conservative, in five to six years. So after age 71, yes you will be receiving somebody else’s money, and so will I. Though in my case the whole system will probably have gone bankrupt, so maybe not for me. I say keep getting what your getting, but for us under 55, we got to set up something different for the simple reason we will run out of money. I accept this for myself. I am not going to receive the entitlements those older than me get. I’m fine with that, as long as we can get some fiscal sanity.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 11:22:23 PM PST by gusty
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To: Marcella
“What I have is not an entitlement - I paid for my social security and I pay for Medicare every month.”

Sorry to disillusion you, but they are both “entitlements”.
We were sold a bill of goods to pay into a ponzi scheme.
You have no “defined benefits” chiseled into stone with any of those programs, neither do I.

But where you really fell down was buying into the class warfare arguments in the first place.
Romney may not have articulated it well, but nowhere did he propose taking away social programs or entitlements from people that earned it. His and Ryans plans are the only ones that have articulated a solution to continue funding them.
Obamas plan is to destroy the economy and accelerate the insolvency of the country by overwhelming it with dependency.
Classic Allinsky.

His 47% comments, if you bothered to read what he said was that his policies and strategy were not going to appeal to the 47% that have become dependent on government handouts.
And I hate to break it to you, but S.S. and Medicare have become handouts, because they were redefined as such by Congress.

54 posted on 11/16/2012 5:52:47 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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