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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:58:21 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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Magic christians spiritual principles never have run too deep. They usually flock to someplace where they are easily forgiven to assuage their guilt and has a good band.


84 posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:39 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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Incredibly, Governor Romney received nearly 1 million fewer votes in 2012 than Sen. John McCain received in 2008. (In 2008, McCain won 58,343,671 votes. In 2012, Romney won only 57,486,044 votes.)

This is demonstrably false and the author of this piece is an idiot. There are enormous numbers of uncounted votes, and it takes 5 minutes of research to discover this.

105 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:29 PM PST by Strategerist
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Per PEW Forum -- http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx -- only 12% of the voting pool were religiously unaffiliated...

At over 120 million votes -- we'll probably wind up with 123-124 mil, that's over 9 million voters...But Obama got over 61 million -- and will probably wind up with 63 or more million when the counting's done.

So who were the religious voters that gave Obama well past 50 million votes????

OK, I recrunched the #s and saw that I was overemphasizing white non-evangelical mainline Protestant #s...Below are all round #s...and equal about 51.5 million...but it's over 52 million total...

Approximate votes going Obama's way from religious voters:

* Latino Catholics (5% of voting pool): Over 4.5 million votes
* White Catholics (18% of voting pool): By the time's all counted, perhaps 10 million votes
* Other Catholic (2% of voting pool): Over 1 million votes
TOTAL CATHOLIC CONTRIBUTION: Over 15.5 million votes

* Jewish (2% of voting pool) - Over 1.5 million votes

* Other non-Christian faiths (7% of voting pool): Over 5.5 million votes
* Lds (2% of voting pool): Almost half a million votes

* Black Protestant (9% of voting pool) - By time it's all been counted, over 11 million voters
* White Mainline Protestant (14% of voting pool) - About 8 million voters by time it's all been counted
* White Evangelicals (24% of voting pool, rounded off) - About 6 million voters once they've all been counted ... about 5.6 million of earlier 120 million vote count ... iow, the #s Rosenberg was using for his article...
* Latino Evangelicals (Little over 1% of voting pool) - Less than a million voters
* Other minority Christian or Protestant (4% of voting pool) (Guessing 2.5 million voters)
TOTAL PROTESTANT CONTRIBUTION: About 28.5 million

Now, Protestants are 51% of voting pool; Catholics are 25% of voting pool...so we would expect for every Catholic vote, there would be 2 Protestant votes...

Had Protestants voted for Obama the same rate as Catholics, the total above would be over 31 million -- not 28.5 million...

109 posted on 11/09/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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Rather than attacking the most conservative group who voted more for Romney than any other Christian group you should be asking the rest of the so-called Christians to vote like the vast majority of evangelicals.

As for the attempt to charge evangelicals with poor turnout, polling data from The Faith and Freedom Coalition, an organization in Duluth, Ga., dedicated to educating and mobilizing people of faith to be effective citizens, revealed that the evangelical vote increased to 27 percent this year, with 78 percent of them voting for Romney and 21 percent for Obama. http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/11/08/surveys-evangelical-electorate-vote-increases/


115 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:08 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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Whew! We almost had a Mormon president. Thank God we got Obama instead!


132 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:39 PM PST by windsorknot
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Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.


158 posted on 11/09/2012 10:00:41 PM PST by bd476
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Catholic and “born again” voting for a pro abortion socialist?? They are not real Christians...only in name, not spirit.


178 posted on 11/09/2012 10:25:32 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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O.K., among the 6 million self-professes Evangelicals who voted for Obama, how many are black

its a valid question given the high percentage of blacks who vote for Obama

if a high percentage of the Evangelical vote that voted for Obama was “black” Evangelicals, it would be valid to say race played a larger role in their vote than did their religion


207 posted on 11/09/2012 10:51:17 PM PST by Wuli
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A lot of opinions here so here is mine.

Romney is not a conservative and did little to espouse them to the masses. Strike one.

He is a mormon and like it or not, a lot of christians could not bring themselves to vote for one. Strike two.

Like Rush said, it is hard to get people to vote for hard work when they get free goodies for themselves. We have too many parsites in this country. Once people found out them could vote for largesse, the end is near. Strike three.

232 posted on 11/10/2012 12:38:21 AM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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Christians going to slaughter? Much like the jews in germany
Thanks for your ingnorance and your imaginary threat of a mormon in the WH. just one more group of selfish idiots who helped put us on the road to destruction. The only way to stop these globalist bastards are the people. They answered load and clear. enjoy the future


233 posted on 11/10/2012 2:46:06 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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They have been fed social and progressive programming for a bunch of years now.

The Emergent/Purpose Driven Church. Rick Warren/Joel Olstein/contemplative spirituality/co-exist movement, and it is social programming and it is very effective.

At my last church, there were three speaking engagements- in the two months leading up to the election, with social justice leaders. It is HUGE industry and wildly popular. It is all over TV and books stores and radio. And the white suburban people were mesmerized and intoxicated with the message of the plight of the poor urban black man.

The church has been taken over as well.

That is what socialists do.


283 posted on 11/10/2012 5:31:17 AM PST by Truth2012
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Of the 30 or more evangelicals I know, none of them would even consider voting for Obama. Some Catholics I know believe strongly in voting for Obama,..I have no idea why.


307 posted on 11/10/2012 3:57:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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BTTT!


320 posted on 11/13/2012 11:26:20 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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