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To: donmeaker
It just isn’t were I would start my fight.

And that's one of the problems; everywhere anyone chooses to start is "the wrong place".

I've had a hell of a time trying to get any traction on a clearly illegitimate practice in NM regarding firearms. The NM Constitution is quite specific about arms:

Art II, Sec. 6. [Right to bear arms.]

No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.)
Now this obviously precludes things like, say, a state statute prohibiting guns on universities. But every time I brought it up I'd either get a redirection to some other entity, a justification ("we don't allow guns in courthouses"), and/or a misdirection ("it's private property"). {That last one is utterly inapplicable; the cited law is a state statute of which universities have no authority over.}

The "we don't allow guns in courthouses" is another insidious bit of misdirection. Notice that the State's Constitution says "no law shall" -- this means that the prosecution of such an infraction would actually be using a law to abridge the right of a "citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense." Furthermore, there is actually no such law in the State Statutes which prohibits firearms in courts; the second sentence utterly prohibits counties and municipalities from enacting ordinances. (Further, the USSC has repeatedly ruled that the police have no affirmative obligation to provide for the safety of any particular private citizen; this means that the depriving of anyone of arms is depriving the means to defend themselves... and therefore violating the cited constitutional passage.)

Also note, the mandated presence of an individual in a court proceeding is utterly independent from even being accused of a crime: jurors and witnesses are examples. Namely the prohibition of firearms in courts;

373 posted on 07/22/2012 2:09:55 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Good luck with that. Usually Judges can control their court rooms. If you find one that disagrees, you truly have “Kokura luck”.


378 posted on 07/24/2012 10:19:14 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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