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Because atheists so often repeat the Big Lie that the nation's founders were more secularists than Christians, many underinformed Americans are starting to believe them.
1 posted on 07/04/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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The atheists suggest that the principle with which there is near-unanimous agreement among Americans, that our government derives its just powers from our consent, is somehow anti-Biblical.

You can search both Testaments, but I think you'll have a really tough time finding any support for the notion that "the people" have a right to revolution.

Both Jesus and Paul specifically instructed Christians to obey the Roman government, and it was by any standard far more oppressive than the Brits.

It would be more accurate to say that the principle the author mentions is non-Biblical, though based on principles drawn directly from Christian ideas.

2 posted on 07/04/2012 10:18:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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We shouldn’t OVERESTIMATE the reliance on the Biblical Truth by the founders, however. Jefferson and others like him were just as influenced by the natural history teachings of Locke as they were Jesus.


3 posted on 07/04/2012 10:20:15 AM PDT by dinoparty
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"But that’s the kind of deceitfulness for which atheists are known."

Not just atheists, but secular humanists, Marxists, abortionists, homosexuals, and other sundry lefty "progressives".

4 posted on 07/04/2012 10:20:45 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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Then there’s the weird atheist insinuation that Jefferson’s reference to “Nature’s God” was a tacit rebuke to Christianity, of which, they claim, the founder was highly-critical.

If you take Christianity to be a religion that believes Christ is God, then TJ was indeed highly critical of Christianity.

He even edited the Bible to take out all references to Christ as God (not that there are all that many of those), to the Virgin Birth, and to the performance of miracles.

http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/

5 posted on 07/04/2012 10:26:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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SIMPLE SOLUTION: OFFER THE PSALM 14:1 DISCOUNT TO ALL!

Bring in and recite Psalm 14:1 to obtain the discount.

The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

6 posted on 07/04/2012 10:37:09 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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The thing about Jefferson, he lived a long life and wrote bales and bales of letters on every subject under the sun.

And his opinions evolved over time. So you can find Jefferson quotes to support just about any position you can come up with.

Quoting Jefferson to make a point is as bad as quoting out of context bible verses.


8 posted on 07/04/2012 11:00:14 AM PDT by DManA
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If I were God, I would have done one thing differently. Only those who have surrendered their lives to Christ as their Savior and Lord would live in the joy and freedom of being born again. People like this atheist outfit, who deny God and badmouth Christian principles, would be subject to the same judgments which existed in the days of Israel in the Wilderness.......when that bunch badmouthed Moses and Aaron and Miriam and the ground opened up and swallowed the rebel leaders as well as their families in a matter of a few seconds. It would surely be transformational how something like that would jerk the slack out of these blotches on the face of humanity that somehow get to exert so much unjustified influence today.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 11:18:04 AM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them . . . We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness . . .

Clearly an Atheist document.

17 posted on 07/04/2012 12:16:34 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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You can't be both an atheist and a deist any more that you can be an atheist and a Buddhist. (although I've met atheists who claimed to be a Buddhist as well)
21 posted on 07/04/2012 1:52:30 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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many underinformed Americans are starting to believe them.

Perhaps the real problem is that there are too many under informed Americans. I assume under informed is a political correct expression for the word idiot.

A person need not remain uninformed, misinformed, or under informed. The correct, factual, and accurate, information can dispel all manner of ignorance and that person is no longer an idiot.

Why does the progressive movement need ignorant supporters?

That’s not difficult to answer when you consider the progressives’ objective is a socialist America. Their agenda to achieve their objective requires discrediting America’s history, America’s founders, and America’s founding documents. The reason is to instill the perception in some American minds that their government, not their creator granted their rights. Who, but America’s idiots, or under informed could be influenced to adopt this position?

Our founders and our founding documents clearly acknowledge that their creator endowed Americans with rights.

Once the ignorant become the majority the rule of law ceases and rule by the majority prevails. Majority rule is a Democracy. When the majority demands favors from the Treasury in exchange for their votes the next rapid step is a socialist America

For the record, I oppose Democracy for America for the same reason I oppose a Socialist American; neither are befitting a free America.

22 posted on 07/04/2012 3:04:01 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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