"He was lying then, or he is lying now..."
Begs the question, why are soooo many people continuing to willfully lie to protect/defend his fraud?
Money, Fear, Blind Obedience, Outside Influences, Inside Influences, a whole host of other undiscovered possibilities? If one breaks down only the ones mentioned that encompasses nearly forty percent of the population of the planet, perhaps? If one adds in the remaining sixty percent of the population of this planet that desires the failure or destruction of America. Where are we? ... Nearly eighty percent?
A realization this may not be what was asked when the question was posed.