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Why Barack Obama listed his birthplace as Kenya
Doug Ross@Journal ^ | 5/19/12 | Doug Ross

Posted on 05/20/2012 5:44:11 AM PDT by pookie18

The biography provided by Barack Obama to his literary agent specified his birthplace as "Kenya". And, over the course of 17 years, despite multiple revisions by Obama, the Kenyan birthplace remained a fundamental part of the bio on the agent's website.

Was Barack actually born in Kenya? I seriously doubt it, even though Michelle Obama has publicly stated that Kenya is her husband's "home country". Contemporary newspaper listings in Honolulu, for example, list the time and place of his birth. While this isn't ironclad proof, to be sure, it's good enough for me.

No, my suspicion is that Mr. Obama manipulated his birthplace intentionally (and cynically) to take advantage of certain benefits unavailable to those born in the United States.

Bookworm Room describes why that might have been. We need to set the Wayback Machine to 1978, when young Obama was seeking admission to college.

1978 isn’t just any year. It’s a very special year. It was the year that the Supreme Court decided Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (1978) 438 U.S. 265... [and] held that [the] race-based admission process was unconstitutional.

With that decision, Obama, who was a self-confessed slacker in high school, suddenly lost his e-ticket to a good college. He couldn’t know then (nor would it have mattered) that the various concurrences in this deeply divided opinion would eventually open the door to colleges and universities making race a “factor” in admission, so much so that this “factor-ness” eventually created a whole new quota system.

My best guess is that, denied an opportunity to use quota systems to parlay a lousy academic record into a quality college admission, Obama searched around for other means of bypassing his academic failings. It was this search that led him to announce that he was Kenyan. I’m sure that a certain amount of digging will reveal that, just when the Bakke decision came down, American universities were engaged in some sort of pro-active policy involving increasing the number of African nationals on America’s college campuses. Obama was happy to oblige the universities in this effort by co-opting his father’s nationality, and burying the fact that he was a garden-variety American black kid.

There’s the nexus — In 1978, Obama, who already then was willing to lie to achieve his goals, created a false identity to deal with the changes the Bakke decision wrought on college admissions.

This appears to be an extremely plausible explanation for Obama's refusal to release any of his college transcripts.

My guess is that this scenario -- or one similar to it -- helps explain why Obama enjoys the company of race-hustlers like Al Sharpton.

And where was the media for lo these many years? Busy investigating Sarah Palin's elementary school chums?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1978; admissions; bakke; birthcertificate; kenyanbornmuzzie; michaelrivero; naturalborncitizen; obama; race; rivero; uodcvsbakke; uofc; uofcvsbakke
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To: bigdaddy45
Birth announcements are commonly placed in newspapers by family members, just as engagements, weddings, and anniversaries are.

My sons weren't born in my home town, but I had their births announced in my home town paper. I live far from my home town, still get the paper, and read the birth announcements. Some of the babies are born there, some are not, and some don't have a place of birth listed. I'm not sure that it was much different in 1961 in Honolulu.

A birth announcement in a newspaper seems to be a pretty thin thread to hang a theory on.

51 posted on 05/20/2012 7:09:13 AM PDT by susannah59
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To: pookie18
PROPERTY OF B-DOG TOONS
52 posted on 05/20/2012 7:14:46 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: snowsislander
In short, there is no academic advantage for Obama to have claimed foreign status, and there is a distinct economic disadvantage.

Totally agree.

53 posted on 05/20/2012 7:15:45 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting
The university would have to comply with numerous immigration regulations and file all kinds of documents in order to admit a foreign student.

I don't believe he applied as a foreign student. The mere fact that he was of Kenyan descent was plenty to give him an edge in the admissions process.

I am aware of a man born in the U.S. but whose parents immigrated here from Argentina and were U.S. citizens. They were of pure German descent. But the young man mentioned his Argentinian heritage on all his college applications. He was accepted to and attended Harvard.

54 posted on 05/20/2012 7:17:32 AM PDT by randita
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To: randita
Thirdly, the information would have been leaked by someone out of spite or retribution.

Good points in your post. Would the chicago way be a factor? The clintoons were rumored to be dixie mafia. chicago mafia trumps dixie mafia?

55 posted on 05/20/2012 7:17:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: SMGFan
"demand Obama admit to this"

If he can sit on a 'church' pew for how many years and not see or hear a thing, how could he possibly know about an 'editing mistake' that persisted for almost as long?

56 posted on 05/20/2012 7:19:01 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: little jeremiah

Plus, if anyone had listened to Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo, they would already know that Hawaii announces foreign births that are reported. The cold case posse has found many examples of foreign born individuals that have received COLB’s. Do you think the records that have been lost or destroyed or missing are all some strange coincidences? The odds would be astronomical! I have not even brought up the fact that his SS# does not pass E-verify. All of this snowballs into a mountain of non-evidence.
Every one of us has no problem whatsoever producing any one of these documents and proof. I was born in St. Paul’s hospital in Dallas, Tx and if I were President, they would happily show my records to all. But not so in Hawaii. John Corsi had the police called on him when he asked to see them. Every single avenue to the truth has been stymied at every turn.
Refresh yourselves and go back over all the information over the past 4 years. It is mind numbingly clear that we still have no idea who this man is.


57 posted on 05/20/2012 7:19:34 AM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: no-to-illegals

I don’t believe that mafia stuff.

I ascribe it to thuggery.


58 posted on 05/20/2012 7:20:28 AM PDT by randita
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To: pookie18
Obama is simply a fraud who changes like the character in Woody Allen's movie Zelig to fit in with where ever he can gain advantage. Obama has invented his persona with farcical autobiographies filled with "compressed" (i.e. fabricated) persons and events. In some ways Obama is chillingly like some kind of Manchurian Candidate and it makes one wonder who helped pull off this charade.
59 posted on 05/20/2012 7:25:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: bigdaddy45

My birth announcement was listed in the town newspaper that my parents lived in and I grew up in but I wasn’t born in that town. Do you think my parents were “conspiratorial”?


60 posted on 05/20/2012 7:26:05 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Kakaze
I don't know if he's American or not. I do know he's a liar, a thief, racist, and a hater of American and our constitution. He doesn't act American. and why did he travel to pakistan. Probably attended a taliban training camp.
61 posted on 05/20/2012 7:26:13 AM PDT by sunny48 (America, home of the offended)
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To: little jeremiah
The research done was meticulous and undeniably convincing. No one has ever seen an actual newspaper with those announcements. They were inserted into microfilm.

I follow this pretty closely, but I've never seen anything that convinces me that the original microfilms were all replaced. That no one has recently seen an original copy or the newspaper is no surprise at all. Newspapers are rarely retained by anyone.

ML/NJ

62 posted on 05/20/2012 7:26:37 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: randita
okay ... chicago thuggery trumps dixie thuggery? perhaps the situation has gone this far down the tube?

Honest, am not picking on you ... I know better. Simply asking some unanswerable questions. Actually am not expecting an answer. Answers are few and far between for the situation America finds herself in (imho). The one thing which bothers me most is those who could ask the questions will not ask even the simplest of questions to make discovery of who is Obama.

63 posted on 05/20/2012 7:27:07 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: little jeremiah
The research done was meticulous and undeniably convincing.

BTW, when I say something like this I try to provide a link to the "research."

ML/NJ

64 posted on 05/20/2012 7:28:28 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: tillacum
>"The Social Security number from CT has always made me wonder how he got it"

IIRC Typical White Granny lifted it off an expired HI tourist/retiree from Cn.

65 posted on 05/20/2012 7:32:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: pookie18

Barack Obama listed his birthplace as kenya because that is where he wsa born. Only when he saw that maybe he could run for president that he changed that. If not, let him show that he was born here. He cannot!


66 posted on 05/20/2012 7:34:31 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: bigdaddy45
Thats just too much of a stretch to be believable in my mind.

I agree. I've never bought the "born in Kenya" conspiracy. Barack Sr.'s presence at Harvard is pretty-well documented so the notion that a pregnant teenage American girl would make an expensive and arduous journey by herself to a 3rd World African country she's never been to before specifically to have a baby in the presence of strangers (and her philandering husband's other wife) and then engage in a conspiracy to fabricate this baby's American birth has always been too far-fetched for me to accept.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, USA. This I believe to be true. However, these revelations lead me to believe that at some point in his adult life, Obama decided he didn't want his birthplace to be the vacation paradise of Hawaii, son of a teenage mother and an exchange student. He needed to be the child of volatile, post-colonial Kenya, son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister. Was this done to gain admission to college? I don't know. At the very least, I believe this fabricated narrative gave him some measure of "street cred" amongst the lefty academics he was trying to impress.

It's funny. So many have been accusing Obama of lying when he said he was born in Hawaii. As it turns out, the conver-up has been that he was lying when he was telling people he was born in Kenya!

67 posted on 05/20/2012 7:34:40 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: pepsionice

If that is true then he is a Liar and needs to be impeached as he is a fraud and needs to be disqualified. Lying at all costs is not an American trait.


68 posted on 05/20/2012 7:35:47 AM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: randita
>"if Hillary were POTUS."

Got you fooled.

Hillary is POTUS.

B Wacky is her step and fetch it dirt boy.

How is her agenda different than his? It isn't.

He wrecks the place, and instills a dictatorship. She rides in clean, yet having her agenda pre installed.

All the corruption, none of the blame.

69 posted on 05/20/2012 7:39:46 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: baddog 219
Thanks, baddog 219...will rerun in Today's Toons 5/22/12


70 posted on 05/20/2012 7:40:08 AM PDT by pookie18 (...OK, plan C: Newt or Rick...I guess it's plan D now)
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To: Jess Kitting
Barack Obama is master of deception; however, the idea that he could enroll in a university as a foreign student by merely stating that he was born abroad is preposterous.

And it's also preposterous that a blue-eyed blonde could claim to be 1/32nd Cherokee, on her say-so alone, and be hired as Harvard's first Native American female prof, and touted as such.

But it happened, did it not?


71 posted on 05/20/2012 7:40:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ncfool
"Lying at all costs is not an American trait."

"You're right, and I did not have sex with that woman"

72 posted on 05/20/2012 7:42:47 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: bigdaddy45

“Contemporary newspaper listings in Honolulu, for example, list the time and place of his birth.”

The birth announcement in the paper is meaningless. Remember it was 1961 Hawaii. At home births were common if not the rule. To get a birth announcement in the paper all you had to do was call them and say, “Hi, I/my wife/sister/girlfriend/daughter/etc. just had a baby boy on Tuesday and we’d like it announced in the paper”. Hell Barry’s Commie Baby Momma could have done it herself from Canada.


73 posted on 05/20/2012 7:46:14 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Jess Kitting

Barry had all those documents for Indonesia, we’re talking about an era when such paperwork was three-decades less developed, and colleges often admit students from exotic countries with lesser qualifications just so they can expand the number of nations they can boast their student body to represent.


74 posted on 05/20/2012 7:48:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: randita

You don’t fault Obama for lying about his birthplace to get into college? (And wasn’t he supposedly a British subject at birth anyway?)


75 posted on 05/20/2012 7:53:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: little jeremiah; ml/nj; bigdaddy45; butterdezillion
Butterdezillion and some others have done incredible research on the birth announcements.

Butterdezillion also believes that George Soros threatened Hawaii with his earthquake machines so take her research on this matter for what it's worth.

76 posted on 05/20/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: pepsionice

Just more stretching of the obvious fact that he was not born here and has lied to get into office! The truth hurts and it is simple to forge doc’s to show he was born in Hawaii and to contact a local paper if you are the parents to make it look that way after you have immigrated here. Daahhhh.
No original birth certificate and facts that show the one shown is indeed a forgery. Daaahhhh!


77 posted on 05/20/2012 7:54:59 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: pookie18
From Wikipedia...

In the late summer of 1983, future United States President Barack Obama interviewed for a job at Business International Corporation.

He worked there for "little more than year." As a research associate in its financial services division, he edited Financing Foreign Operations, a global reference service, and wrote for Business International Money Report, a weekly financial newsletter. His responsibilities included "interviewing business experts, researching trends in foreign exchange, following market developments. . . . He wrote about currency swaps and leverage leases. . . . Obama also helped write financial reports on Mexico and Brazil.

It is also known that Business International Corporation was a front company for the CIA.

78 posted on 05/20/2012 7:57:24 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: pookie18

Most of us agree he used his Kenyan citizenship to game the system or he may have claimed being Indonesian.


79 posted on 05/20/2012 7:59:23 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ve gone through several pages of her postings and see no such proof. Wouldn’t surprise me if it were true, mind you, but I’ve yet to see such proof. I have seen her reference those newspaper postings as including births in other years and from other places, however.


80 posted on 05/20/2012 7:59:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pepsionice

Just more stretching of the obvious fact that he was not born here and has lied to get into office! The truth hurts and it is simple to forge doc’s to show he was born in Hawaii and to contact a local paper if you are the parents to make it look that way after you have immigrated here. Daahhhh.
No original birth certificate and facts that show the one shown is indeed a forgery. Daaahhhh!


81 posted on 05/20/2012 8:00:42 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Travis McGee

Good point. It wouldn’t be the first time thuggery in one part of the nation joined thuggery in another part of the nation to advance thuggery throughout another part of the nation, thereby attempting to institute thuggery throughout the entire nation. Looks to have almost gone nationwide. When going nationwide ... there is seldom the attempt to create unity. Unity is the demonic force sometimes to attain the unattainable. (imho)


82 posted on 05/20/2012 8:04:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: randita; Jess Kitting

Check out this article the New York Slimes forget to scrub. It’s from October 2007. Notice the first line on page 2.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2


83 posted on 05/20/2012 8:09:24 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: All
Realize there is a contradiction within my last post. Would not a contradiction be what America is experiencing by those who spend all of us into oblivion? For what purpose is there to spend us into oblivion other than to crush us? Know have asked many unanswerable questions. Maybe that was the point of this thread or was there a thought for a possible discovery? My prayer will be for discovery.
84 posted on 05/20/2012 8:12:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

“Would the clintoons back off if enough money was offered?”

No, but they would if bodily harm was threatened to their daughter.


85 posted on 05/20/2012 8:15:18 AM PDT by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (also my 2012 strategy))
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To: sirchtruth
You know you can deny the evidence all you want which points to Obama being born in Kenya...

Except for Obama lying about being born in Kenya, there's no real evidence that he was born in Kenya.

As a young adult, Obama fabricated his biography. Why did he do this? There's a serious fire burning here if birthers would stand out of the way.

86 posted on 05/20/2012 8:26:23 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: sueQ
Oft repeated in that ABCNews comment thread as well as others is:
"He was lying then, or he is lying now..."

Begs the question, why are soooo many people continuing to willfully lie to protect/defend his fraud?

87 posted on 05/20/2012 8:28:59 AM PDT by wtd
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To: 9YearLurker
You don’t fault Obama for lying about his birthplace to get into college?

That's because I don't think he HAS lied about his birthplace as I believe he was born in HI.

88 posted on 05/20/2012 8:29:46 AM PDT by randita
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To: pookie18

WHATEVER!

There is a bigger question.

He didn’t do this all by himself!!!!

I want to know ‘WHO’ the people are that helped him to
hide and manipulate his records/life?


89 posted on 05/20/2012 8:29:59 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: 9YearLurker; butterdezillion

She dissected the fake announcements a long time ago. Butter, could you post a link to some info about the birth announcments?

It’s not current news. She has a blog or used to (probably still does) and there’s another one. Butter will post a link hopefully soon.


90 posted on 05/20/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Drew68; ml/nj; bigdaddy45; butterdezillion

Your comments are about as valuable as piles of dog poop on the sidewalk.


91 posted on 05/20/2012 8:34:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ml/nj; butterdezillion

I just pinged butterdezillion and asked her to post a link. I have no idea where in her comments the info is; it was discussed voluminously a long time ago. If her blog is still up (and someone else had one as well), hopefully the link will show up on this thread.

Shows that in order to keep track of research one needs to read a lot as it is posted.


92 posted on 05/20/2012 8:36:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: TheCipher

microfiche was tampered with, too - like the fake BC


93 posted on 05/20/2012 8:38:59 AM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: unixfox; LucyT; Red Steel

Note unifox’s link, I copied the relevant bit. Says “Columbia College”. I figured I’d copy it in case the Slimes decided to remove it. Not sure who might find this interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

Barack Obama does not say much about his years in New York City. The time he spent as an undergraduate at Columbia College and then working in Manhattan in the early 1980s surfaces only fleetingly in his memoir. In the book, he casts himself as a solitary wanderer in the metropolis, the outsider searching for a way to “make myself of some use.”


94 posted on 05/20/2012 8:42:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: randita

Then how do you think he gamed the college admissions system?


95 posted on 05/20/2012 8:42:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: little jeremiah; butterdezillion

Thanks.


96 posted on 05/20/2012 8:43:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Drew68
Thank you for your service!

There's a serious fire burning here if birthers would stand out of the way.

Could you clarify this?

97 posted on 05/20/2012 8:44:11 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: wtd
Begs the question, why are soooo many people continuing to willfully lie to protect/defend his fraud?

Money, Fear, Blind Obedience, Outside Influences, Inside Influences, a whole host of other undiscovered possibilities? If one breaks down only the ones mentioned that encompasses nearly forty percent of the population of the planet, perhaps? If one adds in the remaining sixty percent of the population of this planet that desires the failure or destruction of America. Where are we? ... Nearly eighty percent?

A realization this may not be what was asked when the question was posed.

98 posted on 05/20/2012 8:50:10 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: pepsionice

That still does not explain the fraudulent birth certificate and Selective Service application. If he is what he says he is, it would only be logical to give free and open access to his BC and Selective Service Registration.


99 posted on 05/20/2012 8:50:25 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: snowsislander

He may have entered college as an Indonesian. He had the passport and was an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia may have provided him some scholarship money for all we know.

There isn’t assistance from the USA or the institution itsel for foreign students. But there often is money from their own country to sponsor their learning in America.


100 posted on 05/20/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by Yaelle
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