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To: unkus
yesterday, a few of my fellow nurses were just talking after work...some of them barry voters....and everyone is just scared...scared of all the violence...scared of something that no one can put a finger on...all talked about getting passports...

and then after work, I stopped for milk and just had this overwhelming sinking feeling...like everything could just disappear instantly...

I've got preps but they're all over the place...some pasta...some rice...soups...etc....

I just became overwhelmed with all of this....am becoming more and more scared of everything...

so I bought some extra pasta..put it in the freezer for now....and today I bought more soups....and a fold up wooden clothes rack from Goodwill...

I don't know folks....I am just spooked...

15 posted on 02/28/2012 9:55:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

You have every reason to be spooked. But keep your head and associate with and surround yourself with as many like minded people as you can.

Keep your preparation to yourself and don’t share what you’re doing with anyone but the most trusted.

Be safe and God bless us all.


16 posted on 02/28/2012 10:03:07 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: cherry

You are not alone. I guess you know that, but maybe it helps that so many of us feel the same.

Perhaps that will be our eventual salvation, that we all know we have to survive, somehow, and we are all in this together, at least all of us formerly middle-class folks.

Passports aren’t enough. You need money to emigrate. Expats don’t get jobs in other countries. We will not be welcomed most places, if there are any places left. We can’t depend on our American dollar or American pensions in this sort of climate. If the productive folks leave, it guarantees that the USD and pensions will become devalued even more quickly.

I know I feel our preps amount to so little in the face of what could be overwhelming.


17 posted on 02/28/2012 10:04:37 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: cherry

Do any of the Barry voters admit they made a mistake or show their disdain for him? Usually they won’t admit they made a mistake.


18 posted on 02/28/2012 10:06:24 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: cherry

You know somethings are cheap but nutritious in small amounts, so you may want to stock up on them....sauerkraut and cans of sardines


19 posted on 02/28/2012 10:22:01 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: cherry; unkus

“You have every reason to be spooked. But keep your head and associate with and surround yourself with as many like minded people as you can.”

Unkus is right, you have every reason to be worried, but not necessarilly afraid. I know exactly where you are. I was there myself a few years back. I get that overwhelming feeling now and again, but it’s really, really, really (can’t say enough reallys) good for you. (In fact, you can use it to your advantage. Keep a pen and paper with you, and when you get those feelings, write down a list of everything you’d need at that moment to get home safely, or what you couldn’t live without, etc., and start acquiring those skills and items.)

The Bible teaches prudence. Think of Joseph and Egypt. Think of Proverbs: “Consider the ant and her ways.” Think of the fable of the ant and the grasshopper (not in the Bible). The ants prepare and store, and perhaps most importantly, WORK. They work all the time, they don’t rest at all, that I know of (I mean vacation, not sleep). Well, you don’t need to be frightened, but you do need a firm resolution to get your house in order.

Nurses make a good income. Don’t be one of the lackey’s that says “I don’t have space.” Baloney. Depending on your size and activity, you need anywhere from 1-2 lbs of Dry goods per day to survive. That can be virtually anything. Rice, beans, wheat/flour (milled flour doesn’t keep as long, the others keep 30 years) mashed potato pearls, pasta, etc., etc. Each pound has roughly 1600 Calories in it. Now, consider this. It’s approximately 50lbs for a 6 gallon bucket of dry goods. You could have about a 2200 Calorie diet for 1 year if you had just 9 of those buckets. You can stack them 3x3 in the back of a closet (how I started out). That would set you back roughly $100-$150, if you bought in bulk, and you do it right NOW. (Wheat in my area is about $13/50lb sack, beans about $20, potato flakes, depends upon where you get them. Rice is $20/50lb sack at Sam’s Club.)

Don’t wait, go out and do it now. You won’t worry about whether or not you like that food if you have nothing else to eat. But it’s just a starting point. You’ll need spices, fats/oils, etc. along the way, and some canned or fresh veggies (from a garden). Meat if you really, really want it, but that’s quite costly, and not necessarilly good for you. Don’t waste your money on freeze dried. I mean, you can, but it’s not a good deal economically, not necessarilly more tasty, and certainly not a good place to start. You’ll need some good multivitamins. I recommend “Nature’s Way: Alive.” A consumer study listed it #1 out of 50 different name brand and generic multivitamins. It’s the one I use, and It’s well worth the cost (Which is not substantial, it’s about $20 or so for 180ct).

I suggest you go out and buy extra socks and underwear, and a method of washing them. It sounds like you have that in mind, as you mentioned a drying rack. You can buy a hand washer for about $15-$20, shipped. We hand washed our clothes in buckets for nearly a year. Anyone who has hand washed can tell you, it’s not the washing though, it’s the wringing out that’s the pain.

Anyway, I don’t mean to sound bossy, but I want to help light the fire. Don’t get overwhelmed. Use the stress as a motivator, not a deflator. I feel for a lot of folks, they have weeks, not even months to get prepared. I could be wrong, it’s just in my gut. But let me say one thing, to quote something I heard once, “If you pile up a lot of ‘tomorrows’ you’ll find you have a lot of empty ‘yesterdays.’” And, “If you don’t make decisions, in time, time will make decisions for you.”

Don’t be caught standing in life’s game of musical chairs. If you need any prepping advice just ask. I’m always here to help. If you’re not on it, Kartographer is the keeper of the “Prepper Ping list.” Every thread he pings us to, I add the keyword “Prepperping” to, so you can review all the old ones. Take care, and God Bless.


32 posted on 02/29/2012 8:04:09 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: cherry
everyone is just scared...scared of all the violence...scared of something that no one can put a finger on...

That's it. There's a dark "something" that's coming that more and more are beginning to realize it. Just this last week, a friend called to say they were reading 'One Second After' and 'Patriots' which surprised me as I didn't see them getting off the couch.

I grabbed a few more bags of pasta and dried beans at the store this week, too. Half the garden is planted and I'm feeling a nesting coming on in that there's some need to spring clean and organize to a higher degree.

37 posted on 02/29/2012 9:08:11 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: cherry

Like you I am overwhelmed. Got baking ingredients but little flour. Weapon but little ammo. Cereal but little dry milk.
Just ‘learning how to can n garden. Don’t know how much time we have.


43 posted on 02/29/2012 10:00:40 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: cherry

Like you I am overwhelmed. Got baking ingredients but little flour. Weapon but little ammo. Cereal but little dry milk.
Just ‘learning how to can n garden. Don’t know how much time we have.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 10:00:45 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: cherry
yesterday, a few of my fellow nurses were just talking after work...some of them barry voters....and everyone is just scared...scared of all the violence...scared of something that no one can put a finger on...all talked about getting passports...

and then after work, I stopped for milk and just had this overwhelming sinking feeling...like everything could just disappear instantly...


Interesting that Obama voters aren't swallowing the koolaid that everything is peachy and will be great by the election.

I think that too, when I see how fragile the system is that brings food to the grocery stores. A few missed shipments and the riots will begin.

Good for you for stocking up. Every bit helps, just keep adding to it when you can.
50 posted on 02/29/2012 10:55:03 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: cherry

Cherry and anyone else that is just starting out or those that may be old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


57 posted on 02/29/2012 1:48:45 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: cherry

Pasta should be stored in plastic bags that are sealed, and kebt in a room temp dry place. The freezer will degrade it. Fill your freezer with butter and coconut oil.

Pasta is a really poor choice of food; it destroys your health rapidly, so use it sparingly. Canned or pickled vegetables and meats are a far better choice, along with powered grasses and algae.


59 posted on 02/29/2012 3:03:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: cherry

“Approximately”, where are you located?


67 posted on 02/29/2012 3:59:07 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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