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This is going to sound strange, but I humbly disagree based on Biblical grounds. I firmly believe we are deep into the End Times and that Christ's return is literally just around the corner. I keep track of all this on a daily basis here: RAPTURE READY? From the studies I have been doing the past thirty years or so, it seems to indicate that at the moment of the rapture the world will be on fairly good ground, maybe a little sketchy but certainly not on the horrific scale I keep seeing all over the 'net and in print with all these dire predictions. Certainly such things may come to pass, but I think they will be short lived and you'll see a fairly rapid return to some semblance of normalcy. At least just enough so that the true tipping point into utter chaos will be the instantaneous vanishing of literally tens or even hundreds of MILLIONS of souls. That will be the trigger to the rise of the Anti Christ, I believe. But things will appear to be normal otherwise, just before that. The only odd thing (in comparison to present times -- and I just saw an article on this) will be a dramatic "falling away" from the faith. The article I saw on Drudge is still there and it refers to an increase in atheism -- or maybe it was an expression by aethists about Tebow... Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if the Republican Nominee wins in a huge landslide on a scale with Reagan in 1980 and then things begin to rapidly improve. To me that would be almost a sure indicator that the end is nearer than we think. I know this sounds odd, but it is fairly Biblically correct.

I agree with the scenario that people are going to be saying peace and safety when the end comes, and that the anti-Christ will come to conquer without the use of force. And I agree that we are in the end times as well.

Perhaps it would have been better to qualify the *when TSHTF scenario* to say IF it happens, I would expect it to happen after the elections. I think that the powers that be are going to manipulate things to be as favorable looking as possible for obama to give him as much chance of winning the election as possible.

I really don’t have much idea what’s going to happen after that. Perhaps things will improve financially for a while but I still expect the moral and spiritual decay to continue, if not accelerate, all in the name of progress and tolerance.

People tend to have short term memories and even if the previous three and a half years were awful, as they were, if the last 6 months are good, the credit will fall to the dems, instead of the blame.

That’s the reason I see to think that we’re going to see a great improvement in things like gas prices, food prices, etc. before the elections. So it will be a *See what the dems did for you? We told you we could fix everything the Republicans screwed up.*

It’s interesting, though, there’s been a movement within Protestant Christianity called the Emergent church and the New Apostolic Reformation, which IMO directly contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture concerning the end times.

All I can say, is that I’m ready for whatever. If things get bad before the end, I’m ready. If they don’t and we’re gone, then someone else can use the stuff.