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1 posted on 09/07/2011 12:42:10 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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Lions or someone else?


2 posted on 09/07/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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If they don’t like the pay then don’t teach.

Then again, most of them would not even be able to gets jobs sweeping floors.


3 posted on 09/07/2011 12:47:09 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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Demonstrating how ignorant many teachers are about economics, they tend to keep going to this worn out well of comparison with pro athletes. (funny they never compare to liberal news anchors or movie stars, but that’s another story).

It’s a false choice. People are paid based on the demand for their services and on how rare their ability is. The ability to teach is, I’m sorry, just not that rare. There is plenty of supply for the demand. There is constantly a shortage of excellence at every NFL position. False choice. It’s called economics.

Pro athletes are the elite of the elite of the elite in their chosen profession. Teachers statistically come from the lowest achieving academic student populations.


4 posted on 09/07/2011 12:47:40 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To be fair, teachers should be treated in the same manner as their leader Jimmie-P Hoffa should be treated.

They are all in the same Army, so treat them the same.


5 posted on 09/07/2011 12:49:45 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)
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http://blog.american.com/2011/08/teachers-earn-less-for-a-reason/


6 posted on 09/07/2011 12:51:06 PM PDT by DrC
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If they could play they’d get paid more.

80% are not qualified to teach right now.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 12:51:23 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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“In South Korea, the average teacher earns more than a lawyer or an engineer.”

Lawyer? Maybe since Korea does not have the profit-driven lawsuit-happy system of the U.S.

Engineer? Almost certainly not. Many Asian countries define anyone with a technical job as an “Engineer”. Lab techs with 2 year degrees, for example.


10 posted on 09/07/2011 1:02:01 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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On the other side of the coin, they should be able to be fired just as quick as these high paying NFL players.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 1:03:36 PM PDT by Moonbug
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The problem teachers have with the term professional is not usually reserved for pay. It's about treatment and double standards on the part of districts and supervisors.They may ask you and expect you to take home more work, use your home phone to contact parents, take a working lunch.They will almost universally couch these requests as being what a professional would do. However, if you ask them for a personal day to take care of some business, which is a professional courtesy, you get the runaround.

I had a math teacher come to me once and complain the prin. would not let her take a professional day to see her son who was rotating to a temp assg't in Iowa from Iraq.He was an Lt in 101 and was on his second tour.He'd een seconded to some training assg't for six weeks and then back to Iraq. I talked to the boss who was adamant.She'd dock her pay. I said I'd make a call.She said call the union,they can't do anything.Told her I was calling Sean Hannity with the school name, her name, and the NYC Dept of Ed phone number. My math teacher friend got her day. But that's what professionalism meams to most of us.

12 posted on 09/07/2011 1:03:55 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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These union-dependent, whiny government school teachers fail to realize that they’re OVERpaid ... compared to private school teachers.


13 posted on 09/07/2011 1:06:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Pro linebackers have to perform well, or else they lose their job.

The same can’t be said for union teachers.

And don’t forget, a “professional” just does it for money. An amateur does it for love. Just get someone to pay you for it, and you’re a professional. That’s it.


14 posted on 09/07/2011 1:09:01 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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By definition, a professional is someone who does something for money. Thus there is no such thing as a professional public school teacher, because teaching is not what they do for money.
16 posted on 09/07/2011 1:11:36 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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When linebackers suck, you can tell them, “Coach wants to see you. Bring your playbook.”


17 posted on 09/07/2011 1:11:46 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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If they are so worried about their compensation, I suggest they go work in South Korea.


20 posted on 09/07/2011 1:19:11 PM PDT by NEMDF
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The idea that teaching is in any way comparable to a "learned profession" is ridiculous. The intellectual content of so-called "education" courses is near zero. As Thomas Sowell put it, everyone knows the schools of education are the dregs of the campus. Their constant whining about how poorly they're treated is getting old.
24 posted on 09/07/2011 1:33:05 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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If they don’t like their gig, get a new one. Go play football. Or hockey. I won’t stop them, in fact I’ll pay to see it.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 1:55:51 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I love loving him," --brilliant Matha's Vinyud liberal explaining her support for Obama)
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"In South Korea, the average teacher earns more than a lawyer.."

OK, now they're starting to win me over.

28 posted on 09/07/2011 1:56:58 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I love loving him," --brilliant Matha's Vinyud liberal explaining her support for Obama)
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"Should Teachers be Treated Less Professionally Than Linebackers?"

Professionals do useful (i.e., not social politics), continuing studies. Engineers are professionals.


30 posted on 09/07/2011 2:52:05 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), Army NG, '89-' 96)
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old addage:
Those that can, do.
Those that can’t teach.
Those that can’t do or teach,
work for the gub mint.


32 posted on 09/07/2011 3:04:16 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy with a teleprompter)
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