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Lawmakers to introduce bill to legalize marijuana
AFP ^ | June 22, 2011 | Luis Robayo

Posted on 06/22/2011 5:21:01 PM PDT by hamboy

A group of US representatives plan to introduce legislation that will legalize marijuana and allow states to legislate its use, pro-marijuana groups said Wednesday.

The legislation would limit the federal government's role in marijuana enforcement to cross-border or inter-state smuggling, and allow people to legally grow, use or sell marijuana in states where it is legal.

The bill, which is expected to be introduced on Thursday by Republican Representative Ron Paul and Democratic Representative Barney Frank, would be the first ever legislation designed to end the federal ban on marijuana.

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To: WackySam

Too many “boutique conservatives”.

Pick your stat for the number of non violent offenders incarcerated for marijuana-related offenses, I don’t think it is worth what it costs in dollars or liberty lost.


21 posted on 06/22/2011 6:39:34 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; All
actually stand up and cheer for such usurpation.

I admit to being surprised whenever I see that here.

plan to introduce legislation that will legalize marijuana and allow states to legislate its use

People around these parts got really excited when Texas passed a law making it legal for citizens of the Republic of Texas to purchase and use bulbs made in their own state.

But somehow, that same principle does not apply to another product, marijuana, that was made illegal to use. Apparently, Texans could not just pass a law exempting weed produced and used in Texas? They don't have that power?

That's because the SCOTUS made it clear that could not be done in Gonzales v. Raich. Well, the princlples in that case apply to lightbulbs as well.

Justice Antonin Scalia:

Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce.

Everyone here agree with that? Just wondering. Careful what you wish for.
22 posted on 06/22/2011 6:40:36 PM PDT by andyk (Interstate <> Intrastate)
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To: andyk

I do not.

By that logic the tomatoes growing in my yard are subject to federal regulation due to the fact I would no longer be buying produce that could come from outside the state in which I reside.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 6:48:32 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: KEVLAR

“Plenty of productive responsible people smoke currently.”

There is no such thing!

Ipve fired everyone of them , they are human garbage!


24 posted on 06/22/2011 6:51:06 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Clean and sober hits the spot every time.


25 posted on 06/22/2011 7:00:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dalereed

Incorrect. As much so as saying the same about anyone who has ever had a cocktail, beer, or glass of wine.

No matter, believe what you will.

40 years of the war on drugs hasn’t stopped it.

It was worth the billions spent, the loss of our fourth amendment rights, and the militarization of our law enforcement, the innocents killed in no knock raids etc. (/sarcasm)


26 posted on 06/22/2011 7:01:09 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Every now and then you'll encounter a situation with a drunk and it would be nice to think you could mete out a particularly noxious beat down eh.

Without fear of prosecution or civil suit.

Make the price very high for going outdoors when drunk.

27 posted on 06/22/2011 7:03:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KEVLAR

Long hard labor prison terms for anyone caught using would cure the problem!

You’re just spewing babyboomer shit!


28 posted on 06/22/2011 7:04:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Yep. Authoritarianism at its worst.

"We scream about limiting the powers of the government when libs are running things, but we enforce OUR morality the minute we get the reins. See, it's ok, because it's OURS."
29 posted on 06/22/2011 7:08:09 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: hamboy

There’s a very good reason why they call it ‘dope’.


30 posted on 06/22/2011 7:09:33 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: dalereed

And you, nonsense.

By all means, justify the results.


31 posted on 06/22/2011 7:10:03 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Hoodat

Perhaps you should look up the origin of the term.

We could call alcohol dope for the same reason.

“One deficient in judgment and good sense.”

That sounds just like someone who has had a few too many.

Also of note:

“Dope was borrowed into English from the Dutch word doop, “sauce.” Throughout the 19th century it meant “gravy.” In the North Midland United States, particularly Ohio, dope is still heard as the term for an ice-cream topping, such as syrup. In the South, particularly in South Carolina, dope means “a cola-flavored soft drink.” Dope was especially used of those medicinal preparations that produced a stupefying effect, and it even became a slang term for the dark, molasses-like form of opium that was smoked in opium dens. Some of the common modern meanings of the word dope-”a narcotic substance” and “narcotics considered as a group,”-developed from this use of the word.”


32 posted on 06/22/2011 7:16:37 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Theodore R.
Poor, Dr. Paul, he’ll do anything to try to please a liberal, it seems. I think he likes all the attention.

Since when is states rights a liberal issue?
33 posted on 06/22/2011 7:23:06 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: MissMack99; Theodore R.
Do you think national marijuana prohibition under the Commerce Clause is in keeping with the Clause's original meaning... yes or no?
34 posted on 06/22/2011 7:54:47 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Reading the posts on here, I am seeing that there are views on both sides of the issue.

I am about as conservative as they come and Marijuana should be legalized.

Keep the Government out of our lives.

When I discuss this with my friends, what I have discovered is that people that are against it do not seem to be very educated on the subject and the ones that are for it know quite a bit about the subject.

What does that tell you?

There is sooo much more to talk about on this subject.


35 posted on 06/22/2011 8:00:44 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: KEVLAR

“boutique conservatives”

Interesting term.

When I first heard William F. Buckley explain why he was for legalization I was aghast. How could a “conservative” be for legalization? He was, however, correct. Prohibition created Al Capone and dangerous homemade alcohol.

The mass murders going on in Mexico right now (and crossing the border) are the result of our demand being high and supply being artificially lowered by prohibition, just as it was in the 1920’s.

Buckley, and others, are correct in pointing out that legalization would first bring an end to pot as a source of revenue for the drug cartels but it would also allow states to regulate sales, quality and distribution, just as they do for alcohol. In other words, there would be more control on pot than there is right now.


36 posted on 06/22/2011 8:03:08 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: hamboy

Weed appears to be an amazingly recession-proof industry, much like tobacco and alcohol. Good or bad, I think this is another area where the Fed has no business. It is a matter best left to the individual states.

As for me, I’ve got much better things to do and worry about.


37 posted on 06/22/2011 8:32:08 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: hamboy
June marks the 40th anniversary of the "War on Drugs" launched by President Richard Nixon in 1970, the first major US anti-drug initiative.
Dumbasses!
Lyndon B. Johnson - Remarks at the Signing of the Drug Abuse Control Amendments Bill July 15, 1965
The Drug Abuse Control Act of 1965 is designed to prevent both the misuse and the illicit traffic of potentially dangerous drugs, especially the sedatives and the stimulants, which are so important in the medicines that we use today.
Public Law 89-74

Statement by the President Upon Signing Bill Relating to Traffic in or Possession of Drugs Such as LSD October 25, 1968
In addition to these important new steps, I called for a concentrated drive to cope with the growing problem of narcotics and dangerous drugs.

Public Law 90-639

Nixon was 4 years behind Johnson and the War on Drugs sounds so much better than "a concentrated drive".

38 posted on 06/22/2011 8:41:52 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: hamboy
DEA Prior to the creation of the DEA, drug enforcement rested in the hands of two federal offices. The Bureau of Narcotics in the Treasury Department was responsible for the control of marijuana (due to the 1932 Marijuana Tax Act) and narcotics, such as heroin. The Bureau of Drug Abuse Control (BDAC) in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was responsible for the control of “dangerous” drugs, including depressants, stimulants and hallucinogens, such as LSD. By 1968, America’s counterculture movement was in full swing and the use of illegal drugs for recreational purposes was steadily rising. Alarmed by the increasing acceptance of drug use, President Lyndon Johnson introduced legislation that combined the Bureau of Narcotics and the BDAC into one new agency: the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD), located in the Department of Justice.
39 posted on 06/22/2011 8:47:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: WackySam; KEVLAR
Every Conservative *should* be for this.

You just disqualified Ronald Reagan as a Conservative. It is a common misconception among libertarians who are attracted to the large voice of this website that they and their idiotic political philosophy represent the purest form of Conservatism. In fact, libertarianism and conservatism are actually different factions within the Republican party. Drug legalization is universally understood to fall under the libertarian umbrella. When Ronald Reagan was governor of California, and for a short while afterward, when he was attempting to build a coalition within the Republican Party, he briefly experimented with some libertarian ideas (drug legalization was not one of them). But just as he was once a Democrat who saw the error of his ways, Reagan later rejected libertarianism completely, and eventually revamped Nixon's "War On Drugs" and built it up with federal resources into essentially the form we know today. The Ronald Reagan who we elected president, and who is the role model for modern Conservatives, wanted nothing to do with libertarianism, and would have undoubtedly vetoed a marijuana legalization bill handed to him by a Republican majority. But I guess its possible that the two of you know more about conservatism than Ronald Reagan.

Put that in your pipes and smoke it.

40 posted on 06/22/2011 9:24:28 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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