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Criminal home invaders pretending to be cops, or the real thing? Does it matter?
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 24 May, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 05/25/2011 4:51:56 AM PDT by marktwain

The slaughter in Tucson earlier this month of Marine veteran Jose Guerena, shot down by Tucson SWAT officers, should lead to some long, hard looks at the militarization of law enforcement, no-knock raids, and the "War on Drugs" in general. From the Arizona Daily Star:

Jose Guerena, 26, a former Marine, was sleeping after the graveyard shift at Asarco Mission mine about 9:30 a.m. when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and a man was at their window. Guerena told his wife to hide in a closet with their 4-year-old son, his wife has said. He grabbed an AR-15 rifle and moments later was slumped in the kitchen, mortally wounded from a hail of gunfire.

A "hail of gunfire" is right--these "peace officers" fired over 70 rounds at Guerena, with 60 hitting him. "Why," you might ask, "was that necessary?" Good question. ABC News provides the Pima County Sheriff's Department's answer:

At first the Pima County Sheriff's Office said that Guerena fired first . . .

But that turned out to be a bit of "crime drama" fiction, apparently:

. . . but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. "The safety was on and he could not fire," according to the sheriff's statement.

Hmm--"could not fire," or had chosen not to? He was, after all, a Marine combat veteran, having served tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan--how plausible is it that he forgot to disengage the safety? Additionally, writer "Ghost32" points out in HubPages, the details we've gotten so far indicate a rather loose set of rules of engagement:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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Sherrif Dupnik refuses to release the warrant, and casigates the media for even suggesting that there might be some fault in the law enforcers actions.
1 posted on 05/25/2011 4:51:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
should lead to some long, hard looks at the militarization of law enforcement, no-knock raids, and the "War on Drugs" in general.

It SHOULD, but it won't. As usual law enforcement gets away with murder - literally.

Until the individualy officers are personally held accountable in CRIMINAL proceedings, these sorts of gestapo outrages will continue. And don't hold your breath for this happening. One of the nicest things about working for the government (other than spending other peoples' hard earned cash of course) is never being held accountable for your actions no matter how outrageous.

2 posted on 05/25/2011 5:07:45 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: marktwain

The same guy who jumped all over the Gifford’s shooting blaming everyone in sight without a shred of evidence.


3 posted on 05/25/2011 5:08:11 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: marktwain

Isn’t Sherrif Dupnik that hack that tried to make political points out of that shooting in Tucson?


4 posted on 05/25/2011 5:08:13 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

We need to end no-knock warrants and re-establish a “castle” doctrine of private property rights.


5 posted on 05/25/2011 5:29:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: marktwain

It would not matter in Indiana. If it had happened there, that poor Marine would have automatically been considered guilty.


6 posted on 05/25/2011 5:30:53 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Isn’t Sherrif Dupnik that hack that tried to make political points out of that shooting in Tucson?

The same. The sheriff department is saying that it is "standard policy" to conduct no knock raids with a swat team on any home that is known to have guns in it. Maybe someone reported it wrong, but that is almost a declaration of war on gun owners.

7 posted on 05/25/2011 5:35:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: from occupied ga
Until the individualy officers are personally held accountable in CRIMINAL proceedings, these sorts of gestapo outrages will continue

The policy militarizing local police comes from the TOP, way above the President's and CONgress's pay grade. So of course the low level cogs carrying out the policy are going to be protected. The Globalist Banksters are looting the county and transforming it into a Third World pit. Therefore they need to be protected from millions of righteously angry citizens by cadres of heavily armed thugs ready to shoot innocent people at the drop a hat. The "War on Drugs", the "War on Terror", and the Af/Pak/Iraq Forever Wars are just recruitment and training programs for the cadres.

8 posted on 05/25/2011 5:42:56 AM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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Sheriff Dipshit again?

TYPICAL DEMOCRAT.

That’s all I have to say.


9 posted on 05/25/2011 5:44:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Police procedures need to be changed such that the homeowner can assume that anyone that doesn’t knock at their door bearing a warrant is a criminal intent on harming his family.

I really don’t care if someone “flushes the stash”.

Don’t libs say “if it saves ONE life, it’s worth it”?


10 posted on 05/25/2011 5:46:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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+Police throughout the US have become paramilitary creeps who have major anti-Citizen attitudes. They all think they are super-SWAT team members who are on some sort of mission from God. When is the last time a police officer has been nice to you and just had a conversation with you? At least in urban areas this is rare.


11 posted on 05/25/2011 5:49:38 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Roninf5-1
... are just recruitment and training programs for the cadres.

Sadly I must agree. We've had the turn in your neighbor if he has a gun hotline in Atlanta (several years ago). Not much different from turn in your neighbor if he's a Jew.

12 posted on 05/25/2011 5:50:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: marktwain
I still haven't seen any real justification for these home-invasion warrants, period.

Suspect will destroy evidence? Please, any dealer, grower or chemist worthy of a raid will never be able to come close to flushing evidence. In most of these cases, there is already enough evidence to prosecute from controlled buys, informants, etc. In computer crimes, it's almost impossible to wipe a disk and evidence is already there from IP logs.

How about waiting for the suspect to come outside or turning the water off before knocking? Of course not, then the cops won't get to play “special forces”.

Any judge that allows this BS should be prosecuted at the highest level. Any bootlickers care to justify this?

13 posted on 05/25/2011 5:51:56 AM PDT by varyouga
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This story is unbelievable to me. As I get older in life, I learn to question law enforcement more and more.
14 posted on 05/25/2011 7:14:12 AM PDT by T.O.K.
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To: marktwain
...it is "standard policy" to conduct no knock raids with a swat team on any home that is known to have guns in it. Maybe someone reported it wrong, but that is almost a declaration of war on gun owners.

Soon we may reach the point where finding and eliminating off-duty SWAT officers may be a necessary survival skill... < /sarc >

15 posted on 05/25/2011 7:17:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: T.O.K.

More Andy Griffiths; Fewer Barney Fife’s. That would be a good start to correcting the current situation.


16 posted on 05/25/2011 8:21:37 AM PDT by jaydee770
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