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Beck's Aug 24th Event in Jerusalem: Will any GOP candidates attend? should they?
one man's opinion...

Posted on 05/20/2011 8:58:22 AM PDT by ken5050

Glen Beck announced today that his "Restoring Courage" event will be held in Israel, August 24th, at the southern wall of the Temple Mount. The event, which was first announced a few days ago, is now far more significant given Obama's speech yesterday, in which he called for Israel to return to its pre 1967 borders. This event is going to be huge, no doubt about it. And I'm wondering who will be the first GOP candidate to annonce that he, or she, will attend.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: inman; palin
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To: dalight
But, past that point, you seem to be arguing that all Mormons are the same, closet liberals.

No, very simple to puncture your balloon that all mormons are such wonderful political conservatives. Note that Utah went overwhelmingly for RINO romney.

May be we have another closet romney supporter in our midsts.

101 posted on 05/22/2011 8:01:20 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
May be we have another closet romney supporter in our midsts.

Dream on.. Your whole line of argument is lame. But, at least you don't need 20 pages to say it.

102 posted on 05/22/2011 8:22:47 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Godzilla

May be we have another closet romney supporter in our midsts.
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Yeah its 2007-2008 all over again

The paid RomneyBots are attacking the conservatives calling us bigots and anti-mormons etc

The RINO Romney overkill has begun


103 posted on 05/22/2011 8:36:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dalight; Elsie

In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware
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Ive been meaning to ask you

What do laws from other states and 40 years after Joey Smith got himself killed in a shoot out breaking out of jail

got to do with laws in OH, MO, Il in the 1830-1840s ???

Smith moved out of lawful aqreas so he would be immuned from US moral and marriage laws

Smith was mayor of Nauvoo, Il and wrote his own laws, all of them againsty the 10 Commandments and all designed to excuse his immoral, lustful lifestyle

His homemade religion he called Mormonism was merely a covering for his sins...

Joey Smith declared that he wanted to be a 2nd Mohammad

“Joseph Smith or the Sword”

Mormonism until 1978 was racist and bigotted and is still sexist like Islam..

Williard Mitt Romney was a member of the mormon religion for 23 years (age 8 through to 31(

so therefore Williard Mitt Romney was a practicing racist anhd bigot

I refer you to the mormon doctrine of racism and bigotry

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2722645/posts?page=66#66

Thank you Elsie for posting those

dalight you introduced Romney and mormonism into the thread so you must want them to be addressed..

Personally I refuse to vote for the $50 abortion pusher and same sex marriage advocate Williard Mitt Romney

You on the other hand had better vote for Romney or be caught in your own words...

(as a bigot)


104 posted on 05/22/2011 9:12:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian
ALL wrong??

Ya wanna enGRAVE that in STONE??



105 posted on 05/23/2011 4:29:48 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
And, we have another volunteer named Colofornian, who joins Elsie and Tennessee Nana in an anti-Mormon smear campaign.

AGAIN; you CHOOSE to personalize the perceived 'attack'.

It is mormonISM that gets 'smeared'; and that is done using it's OWN writings, teachings and Leaders.

That you CHOOSE to ignore the obvious, and FAIL to address the issue shows any lurkers that any basis for your claims are mighty tenuous at best.

106 posted on 05/23/2011 4:36:26 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
It's simply inflammatory accusatory rhetoric meant to serve as an ad hominent attack against the person.

Again; I really HATE when that happens!


Doctines and Covenants section 132:51-56
 
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.

 52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

 53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.

 54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

 55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.

 56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.

107 posted on 05/23/2011 4:39:07 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
Free Republic does not advocate or condone racism, violence, rebellion, secession, or an overthrow of the government.

I'm sure glad that MORMONism never had ANY of these things found about it!!!

108 posted on 05/23/2011 4:41:25 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: caww
Labeling your opponent a "bigot" is the ultimate rhetorical mudball--a classic slur intended to silence and intimidate rather than to facilitate an exchange of ideas.
109 posted on 05/23/2011 4:43:04 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: caww

Though RACIST works pretty well; too.

The TRICK is to provoke the other person, get them OFF the topic you wish to avoid, and make THEM go into defensive mode; trying to prove to unseen assumed LURKERS that you really are NOT the way you’ve just been accused of being!

IGNORE vapid accusers, and press on to victory!


110 posted on 05/23/2011 4:46:01 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight

Great job...you could practically see the spittle flying !!!


111 posted on 05/23/2011 4:47:47 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: dalight
Maybe we have another volunteer.


112 posted on 05/23/2011 4:47:56 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Tennessee Nana
dalight you introduced Romney and mormonism into the thread so you must want them to be addressed..

Cool, a nearly cogent post.

You made a post that seemed off of the wall, and rather than fly off of the handle, I took the time to look up your posts and read what you have been writing. Due diligence requires this, perhaps you had a point and I wasn't getting it.

Your post was, "I would hope that Gov Sarah Palin doesnt appear to give any credence to this sham..."

This stuck me as odd. My mom who is 82 has decided to go to this and a number of events because, regardless of who is saying no, no has to be said or Israel will exist no more in a very short time. This is a reality, just because Glenn Beck says it doesn't mean it isn't so. But, here you were calling the event a sham. And I thought, odd. So I looked up your previous posts and found, to my surprise, that you have been trolling threads bashing Romney, Beck and Mormonism in general and in these threads folks have been calling you out and saying stop this crap.

You think you are educating people, but in fact, you are just filling our threads with crap. This is your own crusade, you and a number of fellow travelers and in the general world, it is called a dirty trick. But, worse, it is an appeal not to reason, but rather an appeal to bigotry.

I am not going to get sucked into defending Mormonism, or Islam, or Communism. All of these systems of thought are flawed in my eyes but you see, per force, I also see Christianity as flawed. Yet, I love Christians and sincerely believe they are a blessing to this green earth and all of God's creation. I know Mormons and have worked for them and I read and love Orson Scott Card.

The book of Joshua instructs the Israelites to kill and dispossess the Caananites from all of the land. And, when they wouldn't, couldn't even though it cost them Israel in the end, was this God's intention all along? It is a bitter pill when you confuse love and hate.

As for your question about laws of states 40 years after, the discussion was about when did laws regarding to the age of consent get passed originally and why?

As for Joseph Smith his problem with the law was not that the question of whether she was too young, at the time the practice of marrying a 14 year old was perfectly acceptable. The issue was Bigamy, which people seriously frowned on and which was against the law in the State of Illinois. But, I really don't care about the rest of it with regards to defending anything about it. Monogamy is a blessing. Faiths that respect human dignity are inherently "liberal" but small "l" liberal means about 180 degrees away from what is generally accepted as "Liberal" thought today, big government socialism and the inevitability or tyranny.

Yet, none of that matters. In your zeal, one supposes to expose the "depravity" of the Mormon faith, based on characterizations based on your views of the behavior of Joseph Smith and the mind bending doctrines of that faith, you skip over the line from that cause and into simple religious bigotry. Many if not most of the Mormons I know are really good people, I don't know how this comes to pass, especially given all that is generally known about their faith, but there it is. Mormonism used to teach Racial bigotry, but they renounced it. It used to teach Polygamy and yet they renounced that even though zealots attempt it regardless. But, that is the nature of zealots.

You are acting out of zealotry too, though, and this is a form of evil borne of the sin of pride. As it is said, "Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

113 posted on 05/23/2011 4:48:16 AM PDT by dalight
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To: magritte

Did you bring your dog to FIGHT today; or just BARK from the sidelines?


114 posted on 05/23/2011 4:51:19 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
In your zeal, one supposes to expose the "depravity" of the Mormon faith, based on characterizations based on your views of the behavior of Joseph Smith and the mind bending doctrines of that faith, you skip over the line from that cause and into simple religious bigotry.

Where is that line? I do not want to step over it and upset fairminded people.

If I do not see it, I may skip from the simple to the complex without knowing it as well.

115 posted on 05/23/2011 4:55:28 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
But, tomorrow, Erev Shabbat, will be one of the most consequential dates in American Jewish history.

Well; whatEVER it was; I failed to see it in the newspaper.

(That darned RAPTURE thing failed as well; or else I got Left Behind!)

116 posted on 05/23/2011 4:57:34 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight
"I am told by a very good Jewish friend that Americans Jews hate FEAR Conservatives more than Muslims."

It appears that you do not like the word HATE being misused either...

117 posted on 05/23/2011 4:59:00 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: dalight; magritte; Tennessee Nana
Nana, you seem to be a dedicated anti-Mormon voice here.. and this seems to be your first priority.

Maggie, you seem to be a dedicated pro-Mormon voice here. Is it your first priority?

118 posted on 05/23/2011 5:01:05 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie

Nah, just laughing at the anti-Mormon bigots this morning...foaming at the mouth as usual !!


119 posted on 05/23/2011 5:02:14 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: dalight
And, in August of 2011, either American's make the hugest show of support of Israel ever seen or Israel will be lost.

Either/or: so black and white - with NO other outcomes available.

HMMmm...

120 posted on 05/23/2011 5:02:25 AM PDT by Elsie
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