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News Release: Legal Proof That pResident Obama’s Certificate Of Live Birth Is A Forgery (Lengthy)
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Posted on 05/19/2011 6:28:25 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Jeff Winston

You want evidence? B$, if you wanted evidence you would be asking Hawaii to produce something believable, in stead they pass laws making it illegal to request long form birth certificates. Does that not strike you as a little odd, since your home page purports your loyalty to the constitution.

You sir are very bright, but you are still a fraud, and most on here except your paid cohorts recognize you for what you are.


341 posted on 05/20/2011 5:03:00 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: ml/nj
I guess it would have been nice if you gave a link to where you got this image from. And also if you maybe provided more than the little image you did.

Sure, no problem.

This is the book I used, which was the first result when I searched for "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland."

The screenshot I posted came from page 29 of the PDF file. I picked that page because of the proximity of the image to the text, but you can see the same effect on other pages. Just download the PDF and see for yourself. Zooming in, you'll see the same "multiple pixilation" you identified in the scan of Obama's long-form birth certificate.

Moreover, the very first line of the poem shows an example of repeated text pixels, in this case the three O's. This, too, has been called "proof" of forgery. In fact, it's an observable effect of an enhanced PDF scan.

342 posted on 05/20/2011 5:06:15 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Triple
and the color aberrations? They are missing in many places indicating the text was not scanned at all, but “edited in.” DO you have an explanation for that?

So by ignoring all the other points he summarized in his fairly lengthy post and instead moving on to this new thing, you're accepting his other points, right?

343 posted on 05/20/2011 5:08:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: itsahoot

probably both.


344 posted on 05/20/2011 5:20:08 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kleon
Zooming in, you'll see the same "multiple pixilation" you identified in the scan of Obama's long-form birth certificate.

Thanks for your reply. I had looked at a different AiW. But my comments stand. You are looking at obviously enhanced text, which is solid black, and drawings which are greyscale. I doubt the original image was printed with different inks. Google has manipulated the original image to make it searchable and more readable, probably with software they developed themselves.

My example of multiple pixelation involves no text. I ask you again to find me an example in one of the drawings or some other place where things which are obviously not text exhibit multiple pixelation.

ML/NJ

345 posted on 05/20/2011 5:43:07 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: itsahoot

Oh, his cohorts recognize him all right.


346 posted on 05/20/2011 5:44:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I don't see that. Look at the "stairsteps" going up the left side of the 'a' in both images.

Maybe this 5x enlargement of the 'a's from my previous example will make it clearer to you"

If you cannot see from this that the "steps" in the WH image (bottom) are smaller than the ones in the AP image, then I cannot help you.

ML/NJ

347 posted on 05/20/2011 6:09:48 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Yardstick

No, still digesting the ones I have not yet replied on.

Your parallel line doesn’t match the text under kapiolani in 144.

By the way - it only takes one forgery flag to stick, just like you said - right?


348 posted on 05/20/2011 7:19:45 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Here’s the Corsi interview with Alex Jones today

Listened to that....holy cow. Can't wait until next week. Supposedly Corsi has proof about 'who' it is who forged the BC. Someone in the media, and white house inner circle.

Hot on the trail he says and will release it early next week. Also claims to have proof from Kenya, official government documents, they prove Kenya's birth records have been criminally manipulated to destroy evidence.

I am still praying for God to expose this criminal dynasty...especially after what the turd did to Israel yesterday!

349 posted on 05/20/2011 7:33:27 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Triple

When did I say these things? You seem confused.


350 posted on 05/20/2011 7:35:49 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Red Steel

The Peopling of Hawaii By Eleanor C. Nordyke..

matches the mother on the Nordyke birth certificate...?????

http://books.google.com/books?id=jRq09rgP_HYC&pg=PA210&dq=Hawaii+Vital+statistics+1960+race+of+parents&hl=en&ei=gh_XTYTtNomivgO7j4S_Bw&sa=X&oi=book_result


351 posted on 05/20/2011 7:48:37 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Exmil_UK
A computer can only use anti-aliasing on text, not scanned images.

That's not true. A computer can perfectly easily anti-alias a scanned black line on white paper.

Anti-aliasing is a font display technology for making text display more clearly on a computer screen.

That's one use. But it can be used to make any rasterized diagonal line or curve look smoother--including one in a scanned image. I just scanned a couple of signatures on white paper--one done with a black Sharpie and one with a black ballpoint--with the scanner set to "black and white document." When I opened the results in a graphics program, presto: anti-aliasing along the edges.

352 posted on 05/20/2011 8:30:42 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: EvasiveManuever
> Now, from what I read,

Meaning disregard what I say, because I don't know what I'm talking about.

I guess you've never learned anything by reading. Pity, that.

353 posted on 05/20/2011 8:33:25 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: ml/nj

Thanks for the enlargement, but I really think it makes my point. The unit of measurement—the little squares that make up the image—are the same size on the bottom as on the top. Look at the height of the “stairsteps” on the bottom—they are one unit high. That unit is the same size as the squares in the top image. That unit is one pixel; the resolution is the same on both.


354 posted on 05/20/2011 8:36:45 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: butterdezillion
But those certificate numbers are higher than the certificate numbers that were stamped on the Nordyke BC’s. IOW, the HDOH wants us to believe that they stamped those numbers on the Obama and Waidelich BC’s and then 3 days later they backed up their adjustable certificate number stamp 200+ numbers and used that number on the 2 Nordyke girls’ BC’s.

No way.

*******

Waidelich number: I wonder who were given the numbers before and after Waidelich's number?

Nordyke twins' numbers: I wonder who were given the numbers before and after the Nordyke twins' numbers?

I would think that the persons born at Kapiolani Hospital in Aug. 1961 would still be alive today, so maybe there is a way to find out the names of the persons who have the numbers before and after the Waidelich and the Nordyke twins' numbers.

Waidelich: What is his number again? Could someone list the numbers for Obama, the Nordyke twins, and Waidelich for those of us who have forgotten them? Thanks.

NOTE: Is it just me, or does the Hawaii Health Department have one of the whackiest birth certificate numbering systems?

That is, why are the Nordyke twins' numbers and Waidelich's number so far apart, even though they were born one or two days apart in the same Kapiolani Hospital?Strange.

To me, the Hawaii Health Department numbering system is weird and illogical if the numbers on the Nordyke twins and Waidelich's birth certificates are correct.

355 posted on 05/21/2011 4:58:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Yardstick

I got you mixed up with jw, when you inserted yourself in our back and forth on his side.

Point still holds, can you explain away the color aberration problem?

Jw says just one fraud element has to stick...


356 posted on 05/21/2011 6:39:12 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: little jeremiah
Nordyes’ say “Honolulu, Oahu” and 0h0m0’s says “Honolulu, Hawaii”.

That's an interesting point. Why would two certificates so close in number be so materially different?

357 posted on 05/21/2011 7:31:58 AM PDT by snowsislander (The Nigerian 419 scammers must be envious of what this Kenyan fraud has accomplished.)
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To: snowsislander; Beckwith
Normal real ones would not say something so different.

It's impossible. There is such evidence that the COLB 2.0 is a forgery that anyone who argues it is authentic is as Beckwith said:

Anyone that can't see the obvious anomalies in Obama’s latest fraudulent birth certificate has lost all reasoning ability due to their slavish devotion to the most corrupt and evil sonofabitch to ever darken the White House.

358 posted on 05/21/2011 7:42:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: john mirse

Here are the last digits of the cert#’s and “date filed” in order for the 4 numbers:

Susan Nordyke #637 Aug 11
Gretchen Nordyke #638 Aug 11
Barack Obama #641 Aug 8
Stig Waidelich #920 Aug 8

Over on my blog they’re trying to argue that the state registrar “filed” BC’s for weeks without numbering any of them and then alphabetized them (but only by surname) and numbered them. Here’s what I posted regarding that:

Page 21 of the PDF at http://gen.doh.hawaii.gov/sites/har/AdmRules1/8%208A%20B%20VR%20Admin%20Rules.pdf . It’s Section 3.1 of PHR Chapter 8b. The heading says “Amendments after official acceptance of certificate” and then the text goes on to talk about amendments “after the assignment of a state file number.” The two terms are used interchangeably – “official acceptance of certificate” and “assignment of a state file number”.

Even Obama’s forged long-form has the date accepted by the local registrar the same as the date accepted by the state registrar – Aug 8th. And the HDOH Rules use “official acceptance of certificate” interchangeably with “assignment of a state file number”.

I have 4 BC’s from Kapiolani Hospital that were signed by the doctor and sent to the local and state registrars on Friday. And I have another that was not sent on a particular Friday because it was a state holiday on Friday and wasn’t sent the next Friday either because that Friday was a state holiday also, so it was signed and sent on the Thursday before the 2nd state holiday, when they realized there would be 3 weeks’ worth of BC’s sitting around unless they got them in on a day other than Friday. So even though that was not submitted on a Friday the pattern supports the Friday submission theory. I’ve never seen any other BC that sat around longer than a week. The only Kapiolani BC I’ve seen where the doctor signed the BC on a day other than Friday (or the Thursday because 2 Fridays in a row were state holidays) is Obama’s. And I have never seen a Kapiolani BC that was sent to the local registrar on a day other than when the doctor signed it.

What you have for your claims is

1.Obama’s BC which has already been proven a forgery in a bunch of different ways – including by Mara Zebest who has impeccable credentials as a Photoshop expert; has written many books and is considered a leading expert. See http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/photoshop-expert-and-author-mara-zebest.html and

2. A COLB issued by the same HDOH that has illegally altered their 1960-64 birth index – a COLB which contradicts their own statements, rules, and other sources that I’ve given you several times now…. shortly after former HDOH Director Fukino made it clear that the numbering is on their minds because she gave an interview to Michael Isikkof where she claimed that Obama’s BC was “properly numbered”.

Prove that these BC’s were “all numbered together”. I’ve been doing all the research, rebutting your arguments while you ignore the evidence I give you. You prove to me that those BC’s were numbered on the same day.

And none of this using the theory to prove the theory. I could put a purple raspberry on a $10 bill and use that to “prove” that $10 bills are printed with purple raspberries on them. That doesn’t work. You have to have evidence OUTSIDE OF THE THEORY that supports the theory. You can’t just assume that because Waidelich’s number is genuine it proves that the BC’s were numbered on the same day which proves that Waidelich’s number is genuine. That’s circular reasoning – a logical fallacy. You have to give me evidence OUTSIDE OF THE THEORY that proves that the Nordyke, Obama, and Waidelich BC’s were all numbered on the same day. It has to be better sources than Janice Okubo, the HDOH Administrative Rules, the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report, and all of the Kapiolani BC’s posted on the internet besides Obama’s and Waidelich’s.

Show me your sources


359 posted on 05/21/2011 7:49:43 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

One clarification. When I say “I have” x number of HI BC’s, I’m talking about that I have seen them on the web, not that I have paper copies in my possession. If the images on the web are false then my theory is correspondingly inaccurate.


360 posted on 05/21/2011 7:55:19 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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