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To: AmusedBystander
Court could rule either way, but I would say that tie goes to the runner and obama would win

It is inconceivable - literally beyond even imagining - that a court would a) adopt the Vattel definition and then b) impose it retroactively on a person who was elected President with 69 million votes.

It won't happen, it never could happen, and if it happened to MY guy I would say it was wrong, beyond the scope of the court's power, and a cause for armed resistance.

Now, I think it would be wise for Congress to write a definition of NBC into the US Code, but if Congress wrote a law adopting Vattel going forward, I think it could never be made to apply to Obama, both on ex post facto and Bill of Attainder grounds.

78 posted on 05/10/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Jim Noble; AmusedBystander
"Court could rule either way, but I would say that tie goes to the runner and obama would win

It is inconceivable - literally beyond even imagining - that a court would a) adopt the Vattel definition and then b) impose it retroactively on a person who was elected President with 69 million votes.

It won't happen, it never could happen, and if it happened to MY guy I would say it was wrong, beyond the scope of the court's power, and a cause for armed resistance.

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Your probably right that Barry will never be outed as the usurper he is. I evidence this by the fact that when I wrote to my Republican Congressman concerning how someone who was admittedly born into foreign citizenship could possibly be considered a natural born Citizen...the letter they sent back stated (essentially) that a) Barry won and b) he showed his b.c. (this was WAY before he released the suspect LFBC). I then wrote back that I said nothing of the B.C. issue, and wanted an answer to my question on how a multinational could be considered a natural born Citizen. Nothing but crickets since then.

Since it appears they are not willing to address this, then we are clearly not living in a Constitutional Republic. Anyone who still believes that we are should stop kidding themselves. The votes of a majority can strip away the rights of a minority of voters (specifically). Everyone in the country is supposed to be protected, equally, by the Constitution...which mandates the Commander in Chief by a "natural born Citizen." But that clearly doesn't matter any more.

Regarding your other comment:

"Now, I think it would be wise for Congress to write a definition of NBC into the US Code, but if Congress wrote a law adopting Vattel going forward"

Congress already tried that, in 1790. In fact, they tried to extend the natural law definition (to those born outside sovereign territory):

"the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens"."
Furthermore, the repealed Act of 1790 is what non binding Senate resolution 511 used to "find" McCain a NBC...because he was born to two citizen parents and therefore born not owing allegiance to another nation.

The common theme, and the concern was that the Commander in Chief should not be a multinational. For obvious reasons.

The Congress realized they only had the authority to define who may become a citizen through naturalization laws and that they didn't have the authority to define who may be a "natural born Citizen." They repealed themselves 5 years later.

In a Constitutional Republic, 69 million voters should not be able to vote in a president that doesn't meet the requirements set forth in the Constitution. And, if they manage to do so, such an ineligible person should not be able to escape Congressional and/or Judicial scrutiny on their eligibility....and be REMOVED if found to be ineligible.

What if 100 million voters, who grow up in an ever increasing anti-Constitution America...pushed by anti-Constitution media and hollywood...vote to make the 2nd Amendment null and void?

Should the courts, should Congress get involved? If they did, a vast majority of the voters would be (so called) "disenfranchised."

Think it can't happen? I'm sure most people didn't think a marxist multinational from birth could become President and Commander in Chief.

Sometimes, defending the Constitution is difficult...and a "majority" viewpoint may get rejected in order to uphold the Constitution.

Going forward, the country must awaken to our history and the intent of our founders and framers if we are to keep our Constitution...all of it, intact and survive the multi-nationalist, globalist, anti-American mentality that is so pervasive in our society.

105 posted on 05/10/2011 10:24:50 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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