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To: rolling_stone
"What happened to her passport records, to be in the Philippines in 1964 she needed a passport. Got it?

Yes, I got "it". You think that this is important for some reason. Of course, you have yet to explain what possible relevance this has for Obama's citizenship.

Since 1898, the citizenship status of the parents of a person born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof is irrelevant to that person's own US citizenship. It's settled law.

What else would her missing passport records show?"

Who cares? Whatever it shows or doesn't show has no bearing on Obama.

206 posted on 05/10/2011 1:11:15 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Who cares? Whatever it shows or doesn’t show has no bearing on Obama.

BALONEY her paaport records would show if BHOzo was ever on her passport and if Obie’s citizenship was Aerican. It would aloso show whether she had a passport and the ability to travel to Kenya in 1961. I suggest you keep the mop handy, investigation is not your bailiwick.


211 posted on 05/10/2011 1:17:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: OldDeckHand

Since 1898, the citizenship status of the parents of a person born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof is irrelevant to that person’s own US citizenship. It’s settled law.

“subject to the jurisdiction” is not settled law.


212 posted on 05/10/2011 1:19:10 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: OldDeckHand

Please don’t talk about jurisdiction so much, you clearly don’t understand all of the ramifications here. At least that is the polite interpretation. Dr Ann Dunham Soetoro’s actions might have a lot to do with this argument. They also might not. I’d like to see her passport records for this period too to find out if President Obama is, or was, dual national Indonesian/American. According to the USDOS a dual citizen is subject to the laws/jurisdictions of both countries equally, except when the person is in the specific countries in which they hold citizenship. Then, that particular country holds the rights. So, if you are a dual US/Irish citizen you answer to US law in the USA and Irish law in the Irish Republic. Of course Ireland is in the EU, so you are also an EU citizen and answerable to EU law in the EU. Outside the EU you answer to US, Irish and EU law equally. This is why dual citizenship is a problem in an executive head of state. You should read the Civil Rights Act 1866 and the Expatriation Act 1868 to discover what jurisdiction means in the 14th Amendment. You are misusing Wong Kim Ark and you are wrong. I’ll repeat there may have been no adoption at all. Can you read Dutch or Bahasa Indonesian?


216 posted on 05/10/2011 1:38:31 PM PDT by Will Escott
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