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The Real Reason Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Probably Fake
TrueblueNZ ^ | 04/28/11 | Redbaiter

Posted on 04/28/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by wistful

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To: pepperdog
Well, you may be right about his reasons for drawing this out...but there may be another one: they keep it going through the 2012 election (that is, before Trump forced his hand), and hope that his Republican challenger is forced to take a stand on it that might be seen as siding with the birthers (even a little bit), and then the birth certificate comes out and the rug is pulled from the Republican.
81 posted on 04/28/2011 8:02:50 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: cartan

“Forging such a document would be a felony.”

Is Dan Rather in jail? Is Mary Mapes ?

I’m wondering if Rather and Mapes were sent to Hawaii to pick up the ‘long form.’


82 posted on 04/28/2011 8:08:53 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Errant
Here's an extract of post 6 by "bogie wheel" on the Belmont Club (Richard Fernandez) I mentioned above:
The odds of an existing document of this high-level of interest, in a state health records department archives, being unseen by every human being on earth, besides Alvin Onaka (and Chiyome Funkino, depending on which statement of hers you are reading), have to be stupendously astronomical. [...]

But, yeah, it all comes down to trust. Americans were asked to put an astounding level of trust in Barack Obama. A significant portion of Americans have refused to do so. Now Americans are being asked to put trust in Alvin Onaka, who is “vouching” for Barack Obama.

Wonder how THAT will turn out? Will Onaka get the Joe the Plumber treatment from the media, ya think?

I believe the reference to Joe the Plumber, is a way of daring the Media to go after Doctor Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D. the same way they immediately sent hordes of researchers into every aspect of Joe the Plumber's life, and then blew up every potential trouble and mistake in Joe's history into a giant dust storm in a attempt to remove every good feeling the public might have about him as Joe the Plumber, plain old fellow citizen.
83 posted on 04/28/2011 8:11:20 AM PDT by bvw
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To: frogjerk

As bad as I hate to say it I think we need to try and focus on policies rather than this other stuff, I just don’t see how we can get higher powers to verify. I really think it is too late and country is already infiltrated by communists. If document is falsified as it clearly looks like to me, and no one in FBI, CIA or anything will investigate then this entire country is a charade.


84 posted on 04/28/2011 8:11:35 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: LouAvul
I don't understand. You're saying Zero has not spent $$$$$$ to keep from having to present it?

What I'm saying is that number, at least approximated, should be verified. Its a great talking point if it is true but it needs to be verified.

85 posted on 04/28/2011 8:17:32 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: wistful

“I will await further forensic evidence before making my mind up fully on this issue”

Who, if anyone, will be doing it - someone truly impartial and brave enough to report truthfully???


86 posted on 04/28/2011 8:30:14 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: wistful
Interesting, Obama in his press conference yesterday didn't call it his long form birth certificate

He stuttered a few times and said
- "we've posted umm umm the certification."

87 posted on 04/28/2011 8:31:33 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: TigersEye
no- this one [click this link], short and sweet, and totally convincing even to idiots
88 posted on 04/28/2011 8:39:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K
Getting closer.
RESPONSE in Opposition re 15 MOTION for Protective Order

Page 8, Plaintiff's Response...
5. Defendants have not shown any risk that particularly serious embarrassment will result from the requested documentation.

Page 16...Defendants do not allege that disclosure of the requested information will cause any embarrassment.

Still looking.

89 posted on 04/28/2011 8:43:44 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wistful

And it’s not a long form, it’s an abstract, says so on the bottom of the thing.


90 posted on 04/28/2011 8:45:55 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mr. K
MOTION for Protective Order Staying Discovery
Page 6...Rule 26(c)(1) authorizes the Court to enter a protective order to protect a party "from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense," including an order forbidding the discovery or specifying terms of discovery.

That seems to be where it all came from. Sorry about finding it in the reverse order.

91 posted on 04/28/2011 8:53:36 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mel

I say let the professionals sort this out. If it’s a fraud and I pray it is the Republicans et al should stay clear and let people who know what they’re talking about unravel this.


92 posted on 04/28/2011 8:55:59 AM PDT by surrey
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To: spacejunkie01

See my reply #91.


93 posted on 04/28/2011 9:02:10 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mr. K
No, you are incorrect. It is 100% impossible for what you said to do the laying the way this is layerer.

I know what you are talking about- but that does not apply to the ‘layers’ in this specific document- have you seen the video of someone moving the text around?

I would not be done like that with the method you describe.

Not impossible at all. As an example, let’s take the old COLB from Snopes:

This is an ordinary JPG image; no layers, no text, just pixels. I made an MRC-compressed PDF out of this, and opened it in Inkscape. Here is a screenshot:

See? We can move the text layer around just fine.

94 posted on 04/28/2011 9:08:29 AM PDT by cartan
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To: bvw
I see only two possibilities here:

1. The first and most likely is that the documents made public so far, are forgeries.

2. Or, someone is intentionally trying to create controversy by altering the original documents made public and limiting access to them and other documents that would offer verification of their authenticity.

In either scenario, Obama is neck deep along with his minions and authorities in Hawaii. Alvin Onaka and Chiyome Funkino should use EXTREME caution when crossing the street!

95 posted on 04/28/2011 9:10:07 AM PDT by Errant
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To: cartan
Not impossible at all.

Please explain the missing chromatic aberration as pointed out by Mr. Denninger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

96 posted on 04/28/2011 9:22:53 AM PDT by Errant
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To: wistful

I am done with them all Dem, Rep none of them has any Honor. To send an Honorable man to prison a Decorated Warrior let him lose everything for asking to see this document. Them have to produce for a clown like Trump says a lot about who our Representatives are they are clowns themselves.


97 posted on 04/28/2011 9:23:06 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: frogjerk
Fraud in the USA

This should answer your questions about the first one and you can learn how to make one yourself 8^).

Obama's Birth Certificate Is 100% Fake? Professional Graphics Designer Agrees It's A Fake

The second one is no different.

98 posted on 04/28/2011 9:43:38 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: surrey

Who, I fear everyone is so partisan there can really be no fair and unbiased review.


99 posted on 04/28/2011 10:39:32 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Hodar

>>Not one set of balls in the entire Republican Party.<<

The Republican Party of today,
where spinebones are wishbones.


100 posted on 04/28/2011 11:21:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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