1) He was British by his birth - from his Father’s citizenship.
2) He was Indonesian by adoption - from his Mother’s subsequent Husband.
3) While an adult (in college, grad school) he identified himself as a foreign student (implied by limited information known about this time of his life).
4) While an adult, he traveled under a non-US passport to a country (Pakistan) which banned US travelers at that time. (surmised, not proven)
Given these disqualifying issues, it is irrelevant where (Hawaii, Washington State, Canada, Kenya) he was born. Mr. Barry Sotero is not a Natural Born Citizen.
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The BC/COLB/Place of birth are not relevant. When Rudy Giliani says “he was born in the country”. The response needs to be - so what, what about jus sanguini.
The next round of billboards just need to say this:
“jus sanguini
Translantion: Born a Brit, ain’t legit.”
You said elsewhere that the BC discussion detracts from the NBC issue, you have also said …the Hawaii BC…serves a purpose. It is mis-direction…, and now you say in #35: The BC/COLB/Place of birth are not relevant.
That is exactly what O would like us to believe isn’t it?
Has he, Ayers, Rahm concealed the foreign father issue?
Have they consistently concealed the birthplace issue?
Lets consider the possible ways to resolve this national fraud either very quickly or perhaps during the next two terms.
Dual citizenship/foreign father?
We agree a foreign father precludes eligibility, even if the USSC agreed – and that is uncertain - it would likely opine the law was previously unsettled and it should not be applied to O. Even if the court agree and offered no such restriction, the dem Senate would almost certainly not convict arguing as above plus, “he never concealed his parentage and his parentage was not within his control”. (One way to win and two ways to lose.)
His failure to affirm citizenship upon reaching majority?
Was it even possible for him to do so? If so, "Hey, it was just an oversight by a stressed college kid, could have happened to anyone, kicking him out of office would be a punishment that was beyond all reason, etc."
The fact he likely traveled on an Indonesian passport for most of his life after being removed from his mother’s passport?
“It was simply a matter of convenience for a kid”.
Improper use of SS#’s and draft registration process?
Since taking office, political operatives, Rahm , et al, have cleansed all relevant files. Even if not, it could take years to obtain evidence based on the records that may yet exist. Recall how during the House impeachment investigation re Clinton, the Justice Dept was markedly uncooperative and stalled, resisted and obstructed at every point. We should expect a similar lack of cooperation from any federal agency involved.
Education records, student aid fraud?
See above. There is little chance anything of evidentiary value remains at the government level and it is almost certain any document trail at the private level has either been bought or destroyed. These people are not amateurs.
So, at this point, notwithstanding all the fine, esoteric arguments, do any of those potential defects in eligibility offer reasonable chance of success of resolving the concealment fraud within the next few years?
Not likely, but I believe we should nonetheless pursue them.
Non U.S. birth?
Again, if established it is game over. Few in the Senate will vote to leave a foreign citizen in the Oval Office and it is likely there would be a resignation.
What are the odds of a non-U.S. birth?
There is substantially more credible evidence, albeit circumstantial, that he was born in Kenya than anywhere else. That body of evidence includes statements made on the floor of the Kenya government. Add the fact Lucas Smith has not been detained or even questioned by law enforcement despite having presented every member of Congress with his written charges and the offer to appear and testify.
How to obtain the birth documents from HI?
The only way to obtain credible copies is via a House subpoena and that will require much public pressure and almost certainly a revolt by the new members of the House.
Here is my bottom line. The “axis of evil” outed by Pres. Reagan is much wider and larger around the globe, and now has a larger, multi-headed presence in the U.S. than when he spoke. Its agenda is to diminish or eliminate America’s influence. At the same time we presently have an established enabling supporter of that effort as the CEO of our nation.
Time is not on our side and we should pursue every avenue. How can you logically wave us off of a BC inquiry when it offers perhaps the best and quickest step toward the long process of reclaiming our nation?
In the alternative, why would anyone attempt to persuade the public to not pressure politicians to seek a BC from HI, perhaps the single thing that can bring him down within the next two terms?