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Sheriff blames free speech as likely cause of Arizona massacre
Examiner ^ | January 9, 2011 | Martin Hill

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:41 AM PST by La Lydia

In a press conference hours after a deadly massacre in Arizona, Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnick targeted free speech as a likely cause of the shootings...Reflecting further, Dupnik aimed his ire at radio and television programs: "And today I want to tell you that I hope that all Americans are saddened and as shocked as we are. And I hope that some of them or most of them are as angry as I am and as a lot of us are. And I think it's time as a country that we need to do a little soul searching. Because it's the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the tv business..."

Sheriff Dupnik was quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle as saying "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."....

Dupnik added "Let me say one thing, because people tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences."...

Early last year, Sheriff Dupnik made national news when he announced that he would refuse to enforce Arizona's new immigration law SB 1070:...

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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Good grief.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:44 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

WOW!!

Talk about derangement.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 10:56:59 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: La Lydia

Where was the outcry from the “vitriolic rhetoric” we were subjected too on a daily basis when Bush was President?


3 posted on 01/09/2011 10:57:13 AM PST by Ballygrl
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To: La Lydia
That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences."...

Better get used to it, Barney.

4 posted on 01/09/2011 10:58:05 AM PST by TomServo
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To: La Lydia

As when Obama talks about “punishing our enemies?”


5 posted on 01/09/2011 11:00:07 AM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: La Lydia

Well he better not turn on the radio tomorrow because when the conservative radio hosts get on the air, the $hit will hit the fan.


6 posted on 01/09/2011 11:02:28 AM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: La Lydia

” Sheriff Dupnik made national news when he announced that he would refuse to enforce Arizona’s new immigration law SB 1070”

Why don’t you shut up and do your job, “Sheriff”?


7 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: La Lydia

This guy should realize that his statements are just as charged and will further divide the country.

He isn’t helping the situation.


8 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by dila813
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To: La Lydia

Sheriff is an elected position.The voters will hopefully correct their mistake and give this guy the boot.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:29 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dragonblustar

He must listen to Van Jones.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:29 AM PST by scooby321
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To: La Lydia

I heard the Sheriff’s press conference and I found it pretty disturbing as he was voicing his personal opinion not speaking facts about the shooters intent. I think it is time for the Sheriff to retire.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:38 AM PST by qwicwted
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To: La Lydia

I heard the Sheriff’s press conference and I found it pretty disturbing as he was voicing his personal opinion not speaking facts about the shooters intent. I think it is time for the Sheriff to retire.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:46 AM PST by qwicwted
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To: La Lydia

There was a Dem (Bob Mulholland?) who said, when Arnold Schwarznegger was running for Governor of CA, that he would have to get used to dodging real bullets.


14 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:21 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: La Lydia
The Dupe never will miss an opportunity to take a cheep shot.
15 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:28 AM PST by Domangart
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To: La Lydia

Right Sheriff. Politicians and special interests, particularly “nonprofit activists” have absolutely nothing to do with the political rhetoric. The Graysons, Pelosis, Reids, Weiners, et al, LULAC LaRaza, CAIR, et al

They have nothing to do with anything politcial right? Oh yeah and the “educators” too . . .

Damn that TV and radio for causing all our problems.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:28 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: La Lydia

Every time Sheriff Dupnik opens his mouth he embarrasses himself and the people who elected him.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:32 AM PST by devere
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To: La Lydia

The local sheriff should pull his liberal head out of his rectum and read this article.

This local sheriff may be trying to blame Palin/Rush and other conservatives for his failure to do his job re this self identified potential terrorist. Like why did this nut case have a gun and get by with threatening to kill cops?

What was the relationship if any between the sheriff and the parents/mother of the killer if any.

Why haven’t we read one thing by the left wing mediots about the parents of this insane killer?

Below is an excellent article re the insane killer with a lot of personal quotes. No where did he profess any love/devotion for Palin/Rush or the Tea Party.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e82-569b-a2fe-46306174e1fe.html

Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’

TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”

“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said. “We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.

“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.

Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.

As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.

In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.

Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.

“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.

Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”

In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. “I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”

He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”

In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.

In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.

He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”

“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”

In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.

In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.

“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.

“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”

Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.

Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.

Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.

“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”

Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: La Lydia
Wow, look, somebody stuck a badge on that talking pile of crap.

What a waste of a good badge.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 01/09/2011 11:07:08 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I knew this guy was a liberal when he opened his mouth and began to talk. He is now a star on the Huffingtonpost and will be used as their pinup boy.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 11:08:06 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Patriots Never Sleep)
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To: La Lydia

"Amen, brah."
21 posted on 01/09/2011 11:08:30 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SatinDoll

No sheriff. It isn’t free speech that is the problem. It is the action of a very sick individual who should have been in treatment long before this action, and apparently your office knew about him.

It’s difficult to make an assessment or diagnosis from scanty information, but I’d say the shooter is mentally deranged.

What that mental illness is exactly is for the psychiatrists who will examine him to determine.

The main problem right now is the abomination of the left and journalists making political hay out of this.

It’s a spectacle that this moderate Indie is disgusted by and infuriated at the wholesale piling on the Palin scapegoat train.

* I DO NOT want Palin for president. I DO think that journalists right now are simply the teets on the DNC hog.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 11:09:04 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: DuncanWaring

There are countless examples of vicious hate speech coming from liberal politicians and public figures. That doesn’t matter to them. What matters is that they can exploit this tragedy for the advancement of their cause and, if they are lucky, can use it to gain even more power and control. To the left this isn’t a tragedy, it’s an opportunity...


23 posted on 01/09/2011 11:09:23 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: La Lydia
What other laws did Sheriff Dickhead refuse to enforce?

I wonder if he's hiding his own incompetence in re Loughner.

24 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:20 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: La Lydia

Sheriff’s are politicians like anyone else. That’s why when only the police have guns, it is a police state.


25 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:32 AM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Russ

Might even say it’s a “Reichstag Fire” moment.


26 posted on 01/09/2011 11:11:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: La Lydia

If I recall correctly, the hippies labeled the first of their riots at Berkley as “The Free Speech Movement”. Changed their minds have they? I guess that is why they all started carrying around those little Red Books.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 11:11:42 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: La Lydia

Clarence is trying to paint himself up as the anti-Arpaio. Unlike Sheriff Joe, he sits on his ass all day and refuses to do his job. His office was one of the “sources” that released the information that Giffords had died yesterday. Yeah. He’s got a lot of credibility.


28 posted on 01/09/2011 11:12:41 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (DNC memo - "Don't let this thing go to waste! Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!")
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To: La Lydia

Sounds like the sheriff is ready to send out the SWAT team and stomp out some free speech. I wouldn’t want to be a Tea Party person in his county.


29 posted on 01/09/2011 11:13:11 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: La Lydia

There’s nothing like a good tragedy for attention seekers to make their political statements. I suppose we’ll hear from the Gay Nazi’s next.


30 posted on 01/09/2011 11:13:19 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: La Lydia

Every time this 74 year old Democrat fossil stands before the TV cameras, he indicts the judgement of Pima Co. voters. When he calls AZ the capital of bigotry and vitriol, why do the people of that county not run him out of office?
Shame on Democrats, dancing on the graves of the dead victims in this tragedy.


31 posted on 01/09/2011 11:14:16 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: La Lydia

It’s not news that Sheriff Dupnik is a shameless pc slimeball. He’s just becoming known to a wider audience.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 11:16:22 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: La Lydia
The right was blamed for the JFK assassination done by an avowed Communist The right was blamed for the RFK assassination done by an Arab Muslims The right was blamed for the assassination of MLK which may or may not be true. ( I still believe it was a contract hit) The right was blamed for the attempted assassination of Gerald Ford by the Socialist hippie Squeaky Frohm. The Right was blamed for the assassination of John Lennon by a psycho. The right (rhetoric)was blamed for the attempted assassination of President Reagan by another leftest.
Nothing new here. Same Stuff Different Day. I do find it interesting that most political assassinations and assassination attempts seem to come from the left. I would ask if there had been any studies on this, but that is a silly though since the left leaning intelligentsia or media ain't gonna do anything to make them look bad.
33 posted on 01/09/2011 11:17:09 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: truthkeeper
Exactly Obama wants to punish our enemies, and he said last Friday in Philadelphia at a fund raiser, referring to the republicans if they bring a knife to the fight, we will bring a gun.. he was going to kick some ass not too long ago, over who was responsible for the bp spill....
34 posted on 01/09/2011 11:17:34 AM PST by JoanneSD
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do you mean the left wing illegals loving sheriff or the left wing killer?


35 posted on 01/09/2011 11:19:24 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: La Lydia

Sounds like a typical Democrat Politician to me.


36 posted on 01/09/2011 11:21:13 AM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: Free Vulcan

“Sounds like the sheriff is ready to send out the SWAT team and stomp out some free speech. I wouldn’t want to be a Tea Party person in his county.”

Exactly. Any conservatives living outside the area should avoid his county until his electorate wises up and removes him. Those living in his county need to come to Free Republic, donate and become members to counter his left wing hate speech.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 11:24:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

““It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.”

The rambling quotes we have seen sound very much like the Loughner kid is suffering from schizophrenia.


38 posted on 01/09/2011 11:24:51 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Bob Mulholland?”

Probably. Bob Mulholland is something along the lines of a Keith Olbermann.


39 posted on 01/09/2011 11:27:19 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: La Lydia
#11 January 9, 2011 at 9:47 am
Chisum commented:

Xian @ #3,,

Here you go.

I found this list at JOM.

Why don’t people who are so intent on blaming things politicians have said for this tragedy ever mention rhetoric from Democrats and liberals including:

President Obama:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

And “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”

Or John Kerry who said on the Bill Maher show: “I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.”

Or Howard Dean “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for…”

and: “This is a struggle between good and evil and we’re the good?”

and “we need to remember that the enemy here is George Bush, not each other.”

Or Senator Chuck Schumer who called a flight attendant a “bitch.”

Or the Florida Democrats who ran an ad calling for the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld

Or New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi who called for Senator Schumer to “put a bullet between the president’s eyes?”

Or Jonathan Chait who said “I hate President George W. Bush.”

Or singer Rickie Lee Jones who aid of President Bush “You’re an ignorant, low-class, opportunistic man, both personally and politically, who does everything for political gain and nothing for the wellbeing of the people, and you should not be in office, and the kind of fascism you’re perpetrating on our country we don’t want, and you’re out. We’re done with you. Ffffhgggmm.”

And when asked if she would be willing to take Bush out for the benefit of democracy? “If I say that, I might get arrested when I go back. And I have to go home.” She’s thinking it out carefully. “I guess the question is, would I kill anyone? And the answer is, no. But would I feel sorry if someone killed him? No, I wouldn’t. It would depend on who killed him, I guess.”

Or “The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn” where they superimposed the words “Snipers Wanted” over an image of Bush delivering his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

Or Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams who said she could kill President Bush?

Or Randi Rhodes who joked about killing the President?

Or Reverend Wright who called Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Condoskeeza [sic] Rice.

Or England’s Charlie Brooker who wrote: “On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr – where are you now that we need you?”

40 posted on 01/09/2011 11:30:52 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: OpusatFR

“...I DO think that journalists right now are simply the teets on the DNC hog.”

I love it!


41 posted on 01/09/2011 11:31:25 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: La Lydia

Maybe blame Jefferson?

MSM and this Goober from AZ will never figure that out.


42 posted on 01/09/2011 11:33:42 AM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: FReepers
The Wolves Are At The Door!

Stop Them With The Truth

Donate To Free Republic

58 posted on 01/09/2011 11:08:40 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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43 posted on 01/09/2011 11:36:24 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW!)
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To: La Lydia

Sounds like the sheriff is a nazi like the perp.


44 posted on 01/09/2011 11:37:04 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: La Lydia
Mother Teresa of Calcutta warned about this many years ago during her National Prayer Breakfast Speech Against Abortion, 1994.
But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?
Pray the Rosary for Peace
45 posted on 01/09/2011 11:38:22 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: truthkeeper

Or “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia in June 2008.


46 posted on 01/09/2011 11:39:31 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: La Lydia

What is the Sheriff’s political affiliation? (as if I didn’t know)


47 posted on 01/09/2011 11:43:14 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: La Lydia
After observing Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnick’s comments, IMHO, his demeanor and vitriol indicate he has emotional problems and should have his right to carry a weapon examined. He can exercise his duties without a weapon. Of course, his ability to exercise his duties come into question also. He's a candidate for repeal!!!
48 posted on 01/09/2011 11:43:48 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: B4Ranch

What is JOM?


49 posted on 01/09/2011 1:22:03 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

This guy predicts his failures and brags about them.


50 posted on 01/09/2011 1:26:05 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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