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Sheriff blames free speech as likely cause of Arizona massacre
Examiner ^ | January 9, 2011 | Martin Hill

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:41 AM PST by La Lydia

In a press conference hours after a deadly massacre in Arizona, Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnick targeted free speech as a likely cause of the shootings...Reflecting further, Dupnik aimed his ire at radio and television programs: "And today I want to tell you that I hope that all Americans are saddened and as shocked as we are. And I hope that some of them or most of them are as angry as I am and as a lot of us are. And I think it's time as a country that we need to do a little soul searching. Because it's the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the tv business..."

Sheriff Dupnik was quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle as saying "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."....

Dupnik added "Let me say one thing, because people tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences."...

Early last year, Sheriff Dupnik made national news when he announced that he would refuse to enforce Arizona's new immigration law SB 1070:...

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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Good grief.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:44 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

WOW!!

Talk about derangement.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 10:56:59 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: La Lydia

Where was the outcry from the “vitriolic rhetoric” we were subjected too on a daily basis when Bush was President?


3 posted on 01/09/2011 10:57:13 AM PST by Ballygrl
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To: La Lydia
That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences."...

Better get used to it, Barney.

4 posted on 01/09/2011 10:58:05 AM PST by TomServo
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To: La Lydia

As when Obama talks about “punishing our enemies?”


5 posted on 01/09/2011 11:00:07 AM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: La Lydia

Well he better not turn on the radio tomorrow because when the conservative radio hosts get on the air, the $hit will hit the fan.


6 posted on 01/09/2011 11:02:28 AM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: La Lydia

” Sheriff Dupnik made national news when he announced that he would refuse to enforce Arizona’s new immigration law SB 1070”

Why don’t you shut up and do your job, “Sheriff”?


7 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: La Lydia

This guy should realize that his statements are just as charged and will further divide the country.

He isn’t helping the situation.


8 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by dila813
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To: La Lydia

Sheriff is an elected position.The voters will hopefully correct their mistake and give this guy the boot.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 11:03:29 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dragonblustar

He must listen to Van Jones.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:29 AM PST by scooby321
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To: La Lydia

I heard the Sheriff’s press conference and I found it pretty disturbing as he was voicing his personal opinion not speaking facts about the shooters intent. I think it is time for the Sheriff to retire.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:38 AM PST by qwicwted
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To: La Lydia

I heard the Sheriff’s press conference and I found it pretty disturbing as he was voicing his personal opinion not speaking facts about the shooters intent. I think it is time for the Sheriff to retire.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:46 AM PST by qwicwted
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To: La Lydia

There was a Dem (Bob Mulholland?) who said, when Arnold Schwarznegger was running for Governor of CA, that he would have to get used to dodging real bullets.


14 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:21 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: La Lydia
The Dupe never will miss an opportunity to take a cheep shot.
15 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:28 AM PST by Domangart
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To: La Lydia

Right Sheriff. Politicians and special interests, particularly “nonprofit activists” have absolutely nothing to do with the political rhetoric. The Graysons, Pelosis, Reids, Weiners, et al, LULAC LaRaza, CAIR, et al

They have nothing to do with anything politcial right? Oh yeah and the “educators” too . . .

Damn that TV and radio for causing all our problems.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:28 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: La Lydia

Every time Sheriff Dupnik opens his mouth he embarrasses himself and the people who elected him.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:32 AM PST by devere
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To: La Lydia

The local sheriff should pull his liberal head out of his rectum and read this article.

This local sheriff may be trying to blame Palin/Rush and other conservatives for his failure to do his job re this self identified potential terrorist. Like why did this nut case have a gun and get by with threatening to kill cops?

What was the relationship if any between the sheriff and the parents/mother of the killer if any.

Why haven’t we read one thing by the left wing mediots about the parents of this insane killer?

Below is an excellent article re the insane killer with a lot of personal quotes. No where did he profess any love/devotion for Palin/Rush or the Tea Party.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e82-569b-a2fe-46306174e1fe.html

Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’

TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”

“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said. “We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.

“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.

Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.

As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.

In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.

Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.

“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.

Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”

In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. “I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”

He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”

In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.

In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.

He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”

“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”

In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.

In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.

“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.

“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”

Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.

Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.

Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.

“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”

Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: La Lydia
Wow, look, somebody stuck a badge on that talking pile of crap.

What a waste of a good badge.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 01/09/2011 11:07:08 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I knew this guy was a liberal when he opened his mouth and began to talk. He is now a star on the Huffingtonpost and will be used as their pinup boy.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 11:08:06 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Patriots Never Sleep)
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