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Americans and Debt: We’re Acting Like Children
North Star Writers Group ^ | January 14, 2009 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 01/14/2009 5:13:40 AM PST by Invisigoth

When I was six, my dad said he’d give me five dollars if I could eat a flyer made of thick paper, which I did. I crumpled it up into little pieces and did it over the span of about an hour. My dad was rather horrified, but to his credit, the man paid up. He also wisely refrained from making loose bets with me in the future.

I spent the money I earned, along with my weekly allowance, on baseball cards. This was wise, because I had no expenses, and baseball cards are really not a bad investment. One particular 1909 Honus Wagner card is worth over a million bucks. I never found it in one of the packs I bought, but that didn’t stop me from collecting over 3,000 cards in only a few years.

As I got older, a couple bucks in weekly allowance stopped seeming like very much money. I didn’t care for buying a pack of cards as much as I cared about going to see a movie with that girl in my English class, or to play pitch and putt with my buddy. So I made a little bit more money doing things like babysitting, or helping some of my adult friends with outdoor construction projects. Or I let my friend, who actually had a regular job, pay for me when we went to swing our pitching wedges. I was quite the financial genius.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: america; government; nationaldebt

1 posted on 01/14/2009 5:13:41 AM PST by Invisigoth
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To: Invisigoth
The writing is on the wall.


2 posted on 01/14/2009 5:16:12 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Invisigoth

Too many Americans equate debt with wealth. Doesn’t help that many financial analysts have promoted that fantasy for years.


3 posted on 01/14/2009 5:31:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

If you can’t pay cash, maybe you don’t need it.

(some words of wisedom)


4 posted on 01/14/2009 5:34:16 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

My great Grandparents held on to their farm through the depression because they weren’t in debt.


5 posted on 01/14/2009 5:59:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
It's a little more complicated now because there are no *safe* places to invest/keep money.

From what I hear, there were farmers and workers in the 20s/30s who were convinced by the Gov and the banks to invest in stocks and such that were doomed to fail.

6 posted on 01/14/2009 6:35:26 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep. I have seen MANY adults equate success with how many toys they have, regardless of how much they owed on them.


7 posted on 01/14/2009 7:02:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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To: cripplecreek
My great Grandparents held on to their farm through the depression because they weren’t in debt.

I'm seriously taking action to get that way myself quickly because I fear that the trillion(s) dollar Obama bailout will cause our current deflationary recession/depression to violently swing the other way and create a hyper-inflationary depression.

Anyone in debt when/if hyper-inflation hits will likely lose everything as their loan rates are adjusted to keep up with the hyper i rate. I just wish I could come up with a way to save my 401K from becoming worthless if hyper-i happens. As long as I work for the Company, I can't withdraw it except for a loan that maxs at 50K, and that has to be paid back.

8 posted on 01/14/2009 7:15:47 AM PST by OB1kNOb (How's can one save their 401K from hyper-inflation if you can't w/draw it while employed?)
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To: OB1kNOb

Paying off the house may have left us broke but it’s better to be a safely broke owner than a broke buyer.


9 posted on 01/14/2009 7:19:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: OB1kNOb

401 k self directed? You could move it to gold.


10 posted on 01/14/2009 7:23:44 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup. My house and land is in the clear. It may not be as fancy as a lot of folks, but I truly dread it for those with mortgages if hyper-inflation happens.


11 posted on 01/14/2009 7:25:51 AM PST by OB1kNOb (How's can one save their 401K from hyper-inflation if you can't w/draw it while employed?)
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To: sausageseller

Our employee options to move the money between funds seem to be limited. I’m not sure a gold fund is an available option, but I’m looking into it.


12 posted on 01/14/2009 7:27:56 AM PST by OB1kNOb (How's can one save their 401K from hyper-inflation if you can't w/draw it while employed?)
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To: OB1kNOb
Anyone in debt when/if hyper-inflation hits will likely lose everything as their loan rates are adjusted to keep up with the hyper i rate.

Only if you have an ARM. Those with a fixed rate mortgage and a job where their paycheck is adjusted to (attempt) to keep pace with inflation will be better off in an inflationary period; they'll pay off their mortgage with "cheaper" money.

13 posted on 01/14/2009 7:31:31 AM PST by whd23
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To: whd23
Only if you have an ARM. Those with a fixed rate mortgage and a job where their paycheck is adjusted to (attempt) to keep pace with inflation will be better off in an inflationary period; they'll pay off their mortgage with "cheaper" money.

Except from what I've read over the years, any institution that issued those fixed rate loans, will find a way around it legally or politically and end up sticking it to the mortgagee anyway. And I don't know what kind of jobs are offered where paychecks would be inflation adjusted to keep up with hyper-inflation. I know of annual cost of living increases to salaries and wages but in a year of hyper-inflation, the employee would be sunk before the year ended.

14 posted on 01/14/2009 7:43:22 AM PST by OB1kNOb (How's can one save their 401K from hyper-inflation if you can't w/draw it while employed?)
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