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1 posted on 01/08/2009 4:58:12 AM PST by Invisigoth
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In the last eight, you took a budget in surplus, an economy headed for mild recession but fundamentally sound, and a nation at peace . . . and left trillion-dollar plus deficits, the longest recession in 76 years, and a divisive war that took five years to get right.

Fortunately, some of the rest of the author's analysis is a little better than the above. 9/11 - which had the potential to completely destroy our economy and plunge us into a world war - seems to have vanished from the minds of people like the writer. Bush got us through it so successfully that most people have even forgotten that it happened. And as for the war, he obviously did take out a couple of big terrorist sponsors (although I think he should have gone on to Iran) and on the whole, we have been more secure from Muslim attacks than any other country.

I'm certainly not defending some of the stupid overspending that he engaged in subsequently, but nothing like 9/11 happened on the watch of any other president except, perhaps, FDR.

2 posted on 01/08/2009 5:06:23 AM PST by livius
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It hasn’t been my GOP since ‘read my lips’ no new taxes Bush ........


3 posted on 01/08/2009 5:08:31 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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News Flash to Bob: Becoming Democrat-lite is NOT the solution, but getting back to the GOPs Conservative roots is.

Loser.

4 posted on 01/08/2009 5:09:17 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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6 posted on 01/08/2009 5:13:23 AM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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News flash five (or six, I lost count): It is NOT government’s job to provide affordable health care, keep our air clean and keep gas under $4.00 a gallon.

Government’s job is to preserve and proytect. PERIOD! That means military, justice and safety. It is beyond stupid to send tax money from local to state to federal bureaucries only to do it again in reverse.

The sooner everybody gets off this bandwagon of government doing everything for everybody all the time, the sooner sanity will return.


8 posted on 01/08/2009 5:15:13 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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Well if actual taxpayers are a minority,,,It is truly over with. I doubt if the moocher tax taking slobs will ever vote away their largess.


9 posted on 01/08/2009 5:17:06 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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“In the last eight, you took a budget in surplus, an economy headed for mild recession but fundamentally sound, and a nation at peace . . . and left trillion-dollar plus deficits, the longest recession in 76 years, and a divisive war that took five years to get right.”

This reduces to the bumper sticker: “Why have peace and prosperity when you can have Bush.”

It is leftist BS.

Clinton's ‘prosperity’ was the derivative of Reagenomics. Clinton inherited a sound economy, spent wildly, propped up the economy by SLASHING THE HELL OUT OF THE MILITARY. He ignored 11 major Islamofascist attacks on US interests. His attack on MicroSoft helped to reduce CV funding which encouraged the tech bubble to deflate. Some economists estimate that this alone took 6 trillion dollars out of the economy.

I'm disgusted with Bush for his betrayal of the conservative base and especially his spending, which can be described as nothing less than socialism.

But Bush inherited an Islamofascist enemy that was pumped up and encouraged by 8 years of appeasement and buy-offs, a STRONG recession (and remember how the media scolded him for mentioning the recession during the 2000 debates, that he was talking down the economy and would cause a recession, compare that to the behavior of the MSM during 2008 elections and how they helped manufacture the mother of all October surprises, the ‘economic crisis of 2008’), and a decimated military.

Considering that Bush had to rebuild the military, fought two wars, and dealt successfully with the recession by a series of good tax cuts (not the pretend kind that Obama is talking about, a rebate is not a tax cut), the economy could be a lot worse than it is. Don't get me wrong, I think it is only going to get worse—because of Bush and the Democrats’ socialist approach to the economy.

But trying to use Bush's term to make Clinton's sound like paradise is just more of the same propaganda they've been cramming down our throats for 8 years.

10 posted on 01/08/2009 5:17:34 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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What planet is this writer living on? News flash two: Your party’s on life support. You got your heads handed to you by a first-term senator who out-messaged you, out-organized you, ran roughshod in your once-red states, stole all your issues and made you come across as a combination of big-business apologists, oil company and lobbyist stooges, tax-hikers, foreign policy Wrong-Way Corrigans and racist, Christian Right kooks. And that was on your good days. OBviously not the one most of us are on.

The MSM chose our "candidate" but he chose an unknown, Gov. Sarah Palin, for a running mate and she spurred on the GOP and drew larger crowds than their GOP Presidential choice. Gov. Palin infused the GOP with fresh faces of younger Republicans. We can at least thank the MSM and McCain for that.
14 posted on 01/08/2009 5:21:57 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (YOU can get your own Bail Out . . .Dec 18 post at http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com)
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I love how he says “For better or worse, America knows how Barack Obama plans to try to do all those things.”

Does he know something I don’t know? I haven’t heard that horse’s patootie say anything relevant as to how he plans on doing ANYTHING!


15 posted on 01/08/2009 5:23:16 AM PST by woweeitsme
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News flash two: Your party’s on life support. You got your heads handed to you by a first-term senator who out-messaged you, out-organized you, ran roughshod in your once-red states, stole all your issues and made you come across as a combination of big-business apologists, oil company and lobbyist stooges, tax-hikers, foreign policy Wrong-Way Corrigans and racist, Christian Right kooks. And that was on your good days.

What a load of BS. Domestic policy was handed over to the liberal means and methods, just so President Bush could keep funded that war against terrorist in their own sand pits. Lord McCain has pounded conservatives at every opportunity over these past dozen years. Now how exactly did he get that nomination?

Just look how the GOP lead by lord McCain treated Sarah, and liberals inside the belt know there is little difference in the majority of the GOP and the DNC. How many times did lord McCain lead a filibuster against the evil of government spending he ran his campaign upon, 'earmarks'. The majority of the under 40 college educated crowd probably thought he was against multiple body piercing. Oh, but he did make a name for himself in leading the charge against making those tax cuts permanent. And lord McCain was not a politician enough to keep his mouth shut when he announced to the world he did not know economy.

And without lord McCain fixing of campaign financing that unknown senator would not have had the multiple vehicles funding his campaign, from big-business (wall street), unions, and his grass-rooted government and church funded activists filling up the voter rolls.

16 posted on 01/08/2009 5:26:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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A tad overwrought and not terribly helpful. Sure, GWB failed to rein in the RINOs in Congress (though, whether he could have succeeded we’ll never know, since he didn’t try). He’s got some black marks on his ledger but also some gold stars.

Sure, the Republican Party is in trouble and has been for a long time, being a fragile coalition.

But the more fundamental problem, 100 years in the making, is the increasingly demagoguery-ripe populace and the demagogic politicians since FDR and the demagogic press. When the culture as a whole is increasingly less capable of critical evaluation of information that comes at them (critical evaluation once was provided by the filter of intermediate instances: churches, locally-governed schools, local civic leaders in a relatively homogenous culture), a message of traditional values becomes unpersuasive.

Still, a partial message of traditional values was succeeding, despite all the obstacles, thanks to Palin, until the (partially manufactured?) “panic” hit—a demagoguery-ripe event if there ever was one.

The author’s shrill ranting doesn’t help anyone. A 100-years-in-the-making crisis can’t be solved by chief speech writers. The problem is in the culture as a whole and at its heart lies the long march through the institutions, esp. the public schools.

There are no quick fixes. Home-schooling is producing cadres of people capable of critical thinking, but at the point that the movement becomes large enough to threaten the public school monopoly, it will be viciously attacked and an attempt made to totally suppress it.

But the solution has to involve sticking with “perennnial truths” not whoring after Leftist-Lite slogans. Sticking with perennial truths may lead ultimately to persecution and suppression, but at least we leave behind a witness to truth. Without that, all is lost forever.


18 posted on 01/08/2009 5:34:08 AM PST by Houghton M.
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Maybe the GOP should change their mascot from elephant to goat. After all, the media only uses the GOP as the not-liberal-enough scape-goat party. Elect Dems, blame Republicans, dismiss conservatism as a legitimate position. Good going there, RINO Bob!


24 posted on 01/08/2009 5:42:30 AM PST by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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Funny, when the GOP was in control of both Houses and the Presidency and most of the Governorships, there were not hundreds of articles how the Democratic party was dead....Really odd......


29 posted on 01/08/2009 5:59:27 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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Shouting from the soap box about tax and spending cuts won’t cut it anymore.

I disagree. However, voters recognize hypocrisy when they hear it. No sitting GOP congressperson or senator has anything conservative to say about taxes or spending after their despicable behavior as the majority party from 2001-2006.

32 posted on 01/08/2009 6:24:28 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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It’s called Lost Opportunity Which Never Returns.


34 posted on 01/08/2009 6:30:02 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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the problem is that idiots like mccain think they can fool us.

(ie when they put out the BS flag burning vote instead of the marriage amendment vote)

There are too many in the RNC who don’t give a rat’s posterior about the rank and file.

(iow the party is just a clique for power not a union for principles)


38 posted on 01/08/2009 6:55:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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“”Wrong-Way Corrigans and racist, Christian Right kooks””

This guy is the epitome of the PC Neo-Con & socialist embracing GOP. Either we need a new party or they need to join the democrats.


40 posted on 01/08/2009 7:02:16 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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" America wants to know how the GOP will make health care more accessible and affordable. How you will keep our air and water clean and our energy sources secure, yet keep gas prices under the $4.00 mark. How you will make our schools top-notch, our nation safe yet respected. And how you will restore our economic standing and 401(k) balances, and ensure we can retire before 90."

Sure. And everyone gets a free pony, too!/s

If the GOP wants to win, it has to return to conservative principles, which means reminding the American peoiple that THEY as individuals, are primarily responsible for their own well-being and that liberty and representative government are ultimately incompatible with an overwhelming, interventionist nanny state.

42 posted on 01/08/2009 8:31:36 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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At present, both major American parties suffer from the same delusion: that Government exists to solve economic and social problems. To the contrary, every serious domestic problem we currently face is directly traceable to acts of government, whether executed as payment for political support or made to "correct" the unintended and deleterious effects of prior actions.

Both Republicans and Democrats are guilty of using the government - and by extension, taxpayer money - to help their friends and punish their enemies. The only way to stop this is to take away their power to act and to spend, meaning a return to Constitutional government. At the present moment, few people seem to want that result, and so we will get bigger government, bigger deficits, more spending, and more centralized control - until the entire project becomes unsupportable and the economy responds accordingly. And it will.

55 posted on 01/09/2009 1:04:39 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Ronald Reagan had a vision of America. Barack Obama has a vision of Barack Obama.)
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