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France’s Ramadan Uprising - a Ticking Bomb for Europe (DEBKA Alert)
DEBKAfile Special Report ^ | November 7, 2005, 3:44 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 11/07/2005 11:04:55 AM PST by strategofr

The violent riots spreading across France took several worrying directions Sunday night, Nov. 6, and Monday. The mostly Muslim gangs of youths began surging out of the immigrant suburbs to invade town centers; they fired their first gunshots at policemen; the number of torched cars peaked to 1,400; and disturbing new slogans were hurled, depicting Paris as ”Baghdad-on-the Seine” and their campaign as the start of Europe’s Ramadan Intifada.

A single slogan made a mockery of president Jacques Chirac’s efforts of the last three years to distance France from President George W. Bush’s Iraq war. Furthermore, the French government’s helplessness in quelling the trouble is encouraging other European communities to follow suit - in Denmark, Belgium, Spain and Sweden, for starters.

Chirac, after lying low for 10 days, finally called an emergency security meeting in Paris Sunday, Nov. 6. He then promised arrests, trials and punishment for those who “sow violence or terror” across France. But politics as usual held him back from instituting tough measures or naming those responsible for the violence, let alone deploying the necessary forces. French police are still under orders not to open fire unless fired on first. No names have been released of ringleaders despite several hundred arrests.

Saturday, Nov. 5, as the disorders went into their second week, the French prosecutor-general Yves Bot said he had detected an organized hand and a strategy behind the riots. Witnesses reported vehicles without number-plates distributing petrol bombs. A fuel bomb factory was in fact discovered Sunday in Paris with 150 bottles and gallons of gasoline ready to distribute to the bands of arsonists. Also found there were masks to hide rioters’ faces. In Clichy-sour-Bois, where the accidental electrocution of two teenagers in flight from the police ignited the first protests, residents said: This is just the beginning.

There are plenty of indications that the riots are not simply spontaneous outbursts of frustration by disadvantaged youths of North and black African descent, but centrally organized mayhem, an “intifada” activated by Muslim networking.

The Chirac-de Villepan government, trying to live down interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy’s provocative pledge to deal with what he called “scum,” is not acknowledging this. Because they refuse to recognize the rampage for what it is, they are withholding the forces required to restore order and so letting the danger get out of hand. Police, firemen and paramedics are no match for a fast developing civil war. The army will have to be brought in at some point, preferably sooner rather than later. For a start, marksmen need to be posted to pinpoint the ringleaders and the bottle-bomb wielders targeting cars, schools, shops, warehouses and public buildings.

France’s leaders, like the British and Dutch, are clinging to the hope that sympathetic dialogue with moderate Muslims will calm the street, despite all the evidence that radical, activist Muslims do not heed established Islamic authorities. On Nov. 6, the Union of Islamic Organizations in France, UOIF, issued a fatwa forbidding Muslims to seek “divine grace” by blindly attacking private and public property and urging meditation and calm.

The following night, bands of marauding Muslim youths extended their areas of attack from outlying city districts to urban centers and started shooting at police officers.

The controlling hand, far from being legitimate Muslim authority, is beginning to emerge as the very organization that has for several years been recruiting young fighters in French Muslim ghettos fight al Qaeda’s wars against the West in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iraq and other sectors.

On February 20, 2004, DEBKA-Net-Weekly and DEBKAfile were first to reveal the extent of al Qaeda’s penetration of West Europe. They turned up French intelligence statistics which estimated that “al Qaeda had recruited in France between 35,000 and 45,000 fighters and was organizing them in military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are controlled from local and district command centers under the organization’s national French command.”

“In Germany, Al Qaeda’s numbers are estimated at 25,000 to 30,000 men.”

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Today, French counter-terror sources are willing to admit, albeit on the quiet and not for attribution, that those clandestine terrorist cells may well be at the bottom of the current riots. They note the history of the Palestinian uprising, which kicked off in 1987 with stones and petrol bombs, only to evolve into a suicidal terrorist war by the late nineties. They fear this process may be beginning - not just in France but in the rest of Europe too, that the covert nucleus of trained and indoctrinated Islamic terrorists al Qaeda buried inside Europe is being turned against the continent, starting in France.


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KEYWORDS: france; insurgency; intifada; jihad; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: Fruitbat

"How long would it take for lib mayors and governors to admit failure?"

Well if they're anything like New Orleans, then NEVER!


81 posted on 11/07/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: 3AngelaD

" Falls Church, Va."

No, no. Detroit will be first.


82 posted on 11/07/2005 11:31:34 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"The L.A. riots of 1992 ended when the marauding criminals came up against Koreans with rifles on top of their buildings."

The Koreans were effective in defending their property, yes, but the riots did not end until, realizing that they had burned down the post office, the rioters had to return to some semblance of order so that welfare checks could be distributed.

Look for the same strategy to work in France, at least for the short term.


84 posted on 11/07/2005 11:32:24 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Oh, I have lots of self-reliance! The PD can call me when their armory runs short.


85 posted on 11/07/2005 11:32:49 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Fruitbat

Yep, sad when you fear prosecution more than you fear defending your property from armed roaming scum...


86 posted on 11/07/2005 11:34:22 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Fruitbat

there is one other option, send in the military!


87 posted on 11/07/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by dutch52
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To: strategofr

Bump for a later read.


88 posted on 11/07/2005 11:35:00 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: strategofr
Could someone link me with the article that states that 300 towns in France are being rioted?

Muchos gracias, amigos.

89 posted on 11/07/2005 11:35:13 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: BurbankKarl
Come to think of it, were there any reports of persons killed by our US Military in the Katrina response? The mere introduction of armed troops with shoot to kill orders stops these riots very quickly.

Absolutely...and I do believe GW learned his lesson on response time to emergencies and the danger in listening/waiting for local yokels to step up to the plate.

90 posted on 11/07/2005 11:36:25 AM PST by top 2 toe red
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To: 3AngelaD
It'll never happen here? I'm betting on Falls Church, Va. (the Bailey's Crossroads area), and Laurel, Md., for starters, given their demographics. Other communities in northern Virginia come to mind, as well.

Being the national capitol area, I think it would be squelched very quickly in that area. We just wouldn't allow that to occur in that area. It simply wouldn't happen. It would be a tactical error for them. It would immediately nationalize instead localize it and force a federal response. Bad move IMO. Then again, I might not know WTH I'm talking about. LOL I just don't see it however.

91 posted on 11/07/2005 11:36:40 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Texas WOP
Best wine choice to compliment the aroma of buring cars?

Not sure. A nice merlot?

92 posted on 11/07/2005 11:37:56 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat
>>>I wonder what will be discussed.... Any guesses?<<<

When to use the "Chunnel" to flee to London and set up a government-in-exile!

93 posted on 11/07/2005 11:38:11 AM PST by HardStarboard (Read Stephen Hayes "Spooked White House" - Weekly Standard. It explains a an awful lot.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I'm remembering that...just in case. 8~)


94 posted on 11/07/2005 11:38:17 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Well if they're anything like New Orleans, then NEVER!

Exactly!

95 posted on 11/07/2005 11:38:35 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Lee Heggy123
"I wonder what will be discussed.... "

Comment employer correctement des sauces à vin blanc. (présentation de Powerpoint)

Comment être blessant pourtant poli. (Roundtable)

Sessions d'évasion : Échantillon de fromage.

Contes De Croûton.

Imaginations de coupure de carniche.

You just got to be there

96 posted on 11/07/2005 11:39:02 AM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: Aquinasfan
I LOVE the Onion.

Matthew Gerety, Custom Boat Maker "This is the most exciting thing to happen in France since that red balloon got loose."

Megan Hallan, Imports "Well, it's nice to see that Muslim youths are for once turning to rioting and not terrorism."

Jordan Chase, Stationer "How romantic! Idealistic peasant revolutionaries stealing loaves of bread! What? Angry black people blowing up cars? Wow, France sure has changed since I graduated high school."

97 posted on 11/07/2005 11:39:06 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: BurbankKarl

As Mr. Rogers said "Please won't you be my neighbor?"


98 posted on 11/07/2005 11:39:23 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: F15Eagle
...French troops...

Isn't that an oxymoron?

99 posted on 11/07/2005 11:39:37 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat

We don't have Mohammedan Ghettos. We have a rapidly islamizing AMA.


100 posted on 11/07/2005 11:40:31 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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