Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on 09/02/2002 8:46:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:

Flame war



Skip to comments.

"Our Lady of the Angles" LA's New Cathedral (complete w/ gift shop & snack bar)
Associated Press// The Cincinnatti Enquirer | September 02, 2002 | Paul Wilborn

Posted on 09/02/2002 7:12:17 AM PDT by yankeedame

SEPTEMBER 02, 05:33 ET

Cathedral Opens Its Doors

PAUL WILBORN, Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The opening of the first new U.S. Cathedral in 25 years comes as the Roman Catholic church deals with economic problems and a sex abuse scandal, but leaders say the landmark building is just what is needed during these turbulent times.

The $195 million Our Lady of the Angels Cathedral — intentionally a foot longer than New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral — was scheduled to open Monday at a dedication that was to draw on the diverse backgrounds of the community.

Cardinal Roger Mahony, the leader of the nation's largest Roman Catholic archdiocese, said the cathedral is symbolic of the church's ability to withstand the turmoil.

``A cathedral is timeless in terms of human joys and difficulties,'' Mahony said. ``We've had over the course of time and history many saints and sinners in the church. The cathedral stands as its own reflection of God's presence.''

Protesters angered by the church's handling of sex abuse allegations were expected among the thousands of priests and visitors during the dedication ceremony outside the cathedrals' thick, adobe-colored walls.

The cathedral is Spanish architect Rafael Moneo's postmodern interpretation of California's original Spanish missions, including sloping floors, high ceilings and muted tapestries that depict saints and worshippers.

Artists and designers have added symbols from diverse beliefs and languages as a way of welcoming everyone, Mahony said.

The 25-ton bronze doors carry symbols of deities from around the world, and a disc-like water sculpture in the entry is inscribed with the biblical phrase ``I will give you living water'' in the 37 languages in which Mass is celebrated throughout the archdiocese.

A procession of 565 priests, bishops, archbishops and cardinals was to cross the cathedral plaza and walk down the 333-foot-long nave. Mahony, five bishops and a monsignor planned to bless the building.

Built on a hill overlooking the traffic-choked Hollywood Freeway, the cathedral also stands as a reflection of Mahony's commitment to the city's downtown.

Along with drawing from California's 9 million Catholics, it is expected to draw tourists from Europe, South America and Asia and become a focal point for redevelopment of downtown.

There are no official projections, but tourism officials hope the number will top the 6 million people that visit St. Patrick's each year. The Staples Center, home of the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers, is nearby, and the Disney Concert Hall is expected to open late next year

``The cathedral is another crown jewel in downtown,'' said Carol Schatz, of the Central City Association, a downtown development group. ``What brings downtowns back to life are a number of things, but one is architectural masterpieces that give people a reason to come downtown.''

The church itself has struggled financially as the stock market decline has taken a deep bite out of the archdiocese's budget, forcing cuts for ministry and education by as much as 30 percent and a scaling back of the opening celebrations.

Most of the $195 million to build the cathedral was raised through private donations. A 6,000-space mausoleum, built beneath the cathedral, along with a gift shop, restaurant, conference center and a 600-car parking garage should cover most expenses, Mahony said.

The design has drawn mixed reviews from the community.

Bill Scott, a county employee who has watched the cathedral rise across the street from his office, said he doesn't know what to make of it. ``It doesn't look like a church,'' he said. ``It looks more like a fortress ... or a prison.''

Max DeMoss, a Riverside artist who created a number of pieces for the cathedral, agreed with the fortress description but said, he also gets ``a sense of exhilaration as I approach it.''

The cardinal, who lives in a second-floor apartment that overlooks the plaza, said he is pleased with the finished product.

``The inside has a warmth and prayerfulness and peacefulness to it that I wasn't sure we would reach,'' he said. ``I just couldn't be more pleased.''

Still daunting, though, is the shadow of the sex abuse scandal that has plagued the Catholic Church.

``While Cardinal Mahony is celebrating his building, we'll be there to expose the lies and deceptions and deceit, which has been the foundation many victims have experienced in the church,'' said Mary Grant, who heads a Southern California chapter of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last
...A 6,000-space mausoleum, built beneath the cathedral, along with a gift shop, restaurant, conference center and a 600-car parking garage...

Now let me get this straight: This cathedral is not only near the Staples Center (home of the Lakers)and Disney Concert Hall plus there's a gift shop and 600-car parking garage in the mausoleum?? Man, this place just keeps getting better and better! (sarcasm)

1 posted on 09/02/2002 7:12:17 AM PDT by yankeedame
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: yankeedame; Salvation; Cap'n Crunch; fatima; patent; JMJ333; EODGUY
This is a joke...right?
2 posted on 09/02/2002 7:19:25 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
A 6,000-space mausoleum, built beneath the cathedral, along with a gift shop, restaurant, conference center and a 600-car parking garage should cover most expenses

Now let me get this straight. Christ had a real issue with 'money changers' and 'merchants' in sacred buildings and around the court. Unless the bible is mistaken, I do believe that he went on a rampage, because of his revulsion to this. But, naturally; it's fine if the Catholic church does this. They must have a chapter in their bible that is missing from mine. I was under the (mistaken) impression that giftshops in a church undermined the sacred nature of the church; and that raping innocents was wrong. Where can I find a copy of the 'corrected' bible?

3 posted on 09/02/2002 7:20:10 AM PDT by Hodar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
News of gay marriages here...may follow. There iare leftist liberals in the Roman Catholic Church as there are in politics.This alleged Church 'sounds' non-traditional.Does it have any kneelers,holy water,a crucifix?
4 posted on 09/02/2002 7:22:26 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame; 2sheep; Nix 2
The 25-ton bronze doors carry symbols of deities from around the world

Hmmmm...

5 posted on 09/02/2002 7:22:39 AM PDT by Cachelot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
They did something similar with a Mosque, as well. They added the "Allah Snackbar!" for a little extra revenue... ;0)
6 posted on 09/02/2002 7:24:28 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Does it have 'Luxury Pews'?
7 posted on 09/02/2002 7:25:08 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hodar
Where can I find a copy of the 'corrected' bible?

In the gift shop, of course...

8 posted on 09/02/2002 7:25:50 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Cathedral guide and photos

It looks quite non traditional to me.

9 posted on 09/02/2002 7:28:25 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Do you mean Angles or Angels?
10 posted on 09/02/2002 7:28:35 AM PDT by Salvation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hodar
Now let me get this straight. Christ had a real issue with 'money changers' and 'merchants' in sacred buildings

BTTT!

11 posted on 09/02/2002 7:30:09 AM PDT by Salvation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
No crucifix's. And plenty of golden angels on the Altar.How sad. It is like Disney....they actually have the word confession on the web page though.
12 posted on 09/02/2002 7:30:14 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Izzy Dunne
i know antonin gaudi's sacreda familia in barcelona was ridiculed but the mess in LA makes it look absolutely classic.
13 posted on 09/02/2002 7:30:26 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Was it a Freudian slip that you put up the title as "Our Lady of the Angles" rather than "Our Lady of the Angels"? Seems rather appropriate to me, given the business aspects of the whole operation.

Sorta reminds me of a fictitious church I've long referred to, "Our Lady of Perpetual Bingo."

Congressman Billybob

Click for latest column: "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Click for latest book: "to Restore Trust in America"

14 posted on 09/02/2002 7:31:37 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hodar
Not to worry Hodar ... the title of the article says that this is a church of angles, which appears to be correct ...
15 posted on 09/02/2002 7:32:11 AM PDT by Pegita
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Salvation
Here is the photo of Our Lady Of The Angels in this church.

Viewing this web page of this cathedral....things just don't look-right muchless traditional. If this is for real....how very sad.

16 posted on 09/02/2002 7:33:30 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; All
OUR LADY OF ANGELS CATHEDRAL VIRTUAL TOUR.
17 posted on 09/02/2002 7:35:54 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Salvation
Do you mean Angles or Angels?

=========

LOL! "Angels" is the word. Sorry..my dyslexia was acting up there for a moment!

18 posted on 09/02/2002 7:35:57 AM PDT by yankeedame
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Hodar
You've made the incorrect assumption that Mahony is a Catholic.
19 posted on 09/02/2002 7:37:27 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Salvation
It looks expensively liberal with no real solemn traditions exept the kneelers.
20 posted on 09/02/2002 7:38:42 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson