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Remove Trump From Office Before He Removes Us from Earth (Look at who the author is)
The Daily Beast ^ | August 12, 2017 | Joy-Ann Reid, MSNBC

Posted on 08/11/2017 11:43:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Did Donald Trump really just walk us to the brink of war with North Korea on a whim this week, or has this all been a figment of our lurid imagination? It seems crazy to contemplate that the world now stands on the edge of disaster because the American president simply lacks self-control. And yet that’s exactly the discussion on the table.

Trump’s bizarre statements about “fire and fury like the world has never seen,” coupled with the follow-up press conference in which he declared a “whole new ballgame” and doubled down on his apparently extemporaneous threats against the North Korean regime should chill the bones of every military family and every American with a child of draft age.

Trump talks in many ways exactly as Kim Jong Un does—in disjointed statements full of bellicose hyperbole. He blusters in a clear effort to shore up his flagging ego; to make himself seem strong when in fact he is weak; an isolated, morose figure lumbering from self-named golf course to self-named golf course and imprisoned by the office whose grandeur he cannot measure up to. He screams into the ether to try and push back the void, when the void is deep inside him.

He is a bitter, angry, frightened man, cornered by prosecutors, rejected by a majority of Americans, declaring his leaking aides are merely fighting to prove who loves him the most and yet unsure which of his former lieutenants—or maybe even family members—will sell him out to save themselves. His dream of finally commanding global respect by becoming president of the United States and of besting his obsession, Barack Obama, has collapsed before his first year in office is even complete.

His sycophant lieutenants believe the country should respond by lining up behind the Narcissist in New Jersey, comparing his North Korea bluster to the Cuban missile crisis. In fact, it is the inverse: President Kennedy in that crisis answered Soviet brinksmanship, he didn’t provoke it.

Donald Trump is a weakened president, and a man not prone to controlling his impulses. Given his temperament, personality, and looming legal predicament, there is literally no telling what a cornered Donald Trump will say or do. And in the case of North Korea, his bluster is aimed at a man who has killed his own family members to preserve his absolute power, and who waves the threat of nuclear war around like a hand grenade with the pin pulled out, sometimes just to demand the world supply the nation he is starving, with grain. To threaten war with such a regime is, to put it bluntly, an act of insanity. No wonder Trump’s own administration are pleading with the world to ignore him.

There’s good reason. Make no mistake: War with North Korea would be a cataclysm. The Hermit Kingdom possesses long range missiles that could in theory reach the American mainland and apparently, miniaturized nukes, too. Ten million souls live in the shadow of the Kim regime in Seoul, South Korea, including nearly 29,000 American troops. The media walking us through the potential bombers and bombing routes, as if reigniting the active Korean War is a thing to be contemplated by rational minds is almost as barmy as Trump’s pronouncements. And yet, with Trump in office, what choice is there?


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KEYWORDS: boogedyboogedy; korea; trump; wishfulthinking
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There is no draft, lady.
1 posted on 08/11/2017 11:43:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uh, we have been at war with North Korea since 1950.

Duh!

2 posted on 08/11/2017 11:47:18 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Pontiac

She’s a “former” Obama operative who went to work for a cable news outlet. Don’t confuse her with facts.


3 posted on 08/11/2017 11:48:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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What is wrong with these people who are totally ignorant of their country’s history?

My bad, sorry.

Public Schools

4 posted on 08/11/2017 11:50:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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Well, you just answered a question I had ... did the Korean War ever end? I didn’t think so! It’s been an armistice, right?

But, OTOH, were we at war with “North Korea” ? I don’t think it existed at that time, but was a creation of the armistice.

Sobering thoughts!


5 posted on 08/11/2017 11:53:37 PM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: Pontiac

She’s a Harvard graduate supposedly.


6 posted on 08/11/2017 11:54:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dr_lew
No, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (”North Korea”) came about when the peninsula was divided in two after the end of World War II and the withdrawal of occupying Imperial Japanese troops. Kim Il Sung, a Soviet operative, was installed as the leader in the North.
7 posted on 08/11/2017 11:57:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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There's no faster path to war than to invite aggression by showing weakness. Trump's assertiveness seems startling only by its relative novelty but it's no more egregious than that of Winston Churchill.
The really astonishing thing here is the unexpected support we're getting from....CHINA!

This whole mess is brought to us courtesy of Bill Clinton's utter and criminal incompetence. If he had confronted the Norks while they were more easily containable we wouldn't be facing a nuclear power; if President Trump fails to deal with them now, next decade we'll be threatened by a North Korea with ICBMs. He won't fail because he takes care of business. That's all he does.

8 posted on 08/12/2017 12:02:11 AM PDT by stormhill
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But, OTOH, were we at war with “North Korea” ?

Actually yes.

Korea was divided at the end of WW I

The war began when the North invaded the south in 1950.

Then the UN passed the resolution authorizing a Police Action (a war by any other name is just as bloody).

9 posted on 08/12/2017 12:04:22 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: stormhill
The really astonishing thing here is the unexpected support we're getting from....CHINA!

I think that China is in no mood to see things escalate to where China and the US come to a point where the US uses trade against China as leverage.

China’s debt is now 300% of GDP. Typically when debt reaches this level the country suffers rampant inflation and economic collapse.

10 posted on 08/12/2017 12:09:10 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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The Chicken Little author is amusing for her hysteria.

To threaten war with such a regime is, to put it bluntly, an act of insanity

Yeah, maybe. Sometimes the best way to keep the peace is to show a crazy person you can be just as crazy as they are.
Crazy Kim may pretend he has nothing to lose but China can't afford that.

11 posted on 08/12/2017 12:20:19 AM PDT by stormhill
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OK, I see it was complicated, but I was right in my impression that it was ended only by an armistice, and that

in October 1950, mass Chinese forces crossed the Yalu and entered the war

... so we are still at war with China, right? They seem to know it, even if we have forgotten.

12 posted on 08/12/2017 12:20:25 AM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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No those were “volunteers” not Chinese troops, a fiction which keeps China’s hands clean.


13 posted on 08/12/2017 12:23:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Donald Trump is a weakened president, and a man not prone to controlling his impulses. Given his temperament, personality, and looming legal predicament, there is literally no telling what a cornered Donald Trump will say or do.

But that is what your side wanted, a weakened Trump administration. Now that you realize there are worse people who want to kill us out there, you don't want what you worked so hard for?

14 posted on 08/12/2017 12:23:30 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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” doubled down on his apparently extemporaneous threats against the North Korean regime should chill the bones of every military family and every American with a child of draft age.”

Imagine the terror her rhetoric inspires in the low information voter. She implies Trump was making extemporaneous threats of nuclear war. This is the narrative the MSM has been building - they’ve been saying he’s dangerous and now they are setting up justification for craziness/coup talk.


15 posted on 08/12/2017 12:33:33 AM PDT by ransomnote
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He Removes Us from Earth (Look at who the author is)

I doubt that, but I don't mind him removing "you" from Earth.

16 posted on 08/12/2017 12:53:48 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Al-Qaeda or Kim-il-fat himself could have authored this bilious screed.


17 posted on 08/12/2017 1:04:00 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Something to think about. Maybe Trump should ask COngress to declare war against the Norks. Then people like this can be arrested for Treason.


18 posted on 08/12/2017 1:05:30 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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I agree with your hypothetical. From Tokyo Rose to P’yongyang Reid.


19 posted on 08/12/2017 1:09:15 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: wastoute

I have considered that too. Joy Reid and her ideological brethren would find themselves in prison for the duration of hostilities, with their eventual fates determined by military court.


20 posted on 08/12/2017 1:13:18 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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