Posted on 02/06/2016 5:52:34 AM PST by Elderberry
A son watched a father bleed out ... and I think there was a visa/versa
The day was horrible and the feds invented the entire scenario
Men died for no reason
I think two women as well ... not sure.
Yeah, we could stop using the term “biker”. How about a more fitting word, like “outlaw”. And how about you get over your MC gang fetish. Let ‘em kill each other. Outlaw bikers, Chicago gang bangers, West Coast latino gangs, all of them. Let them all kill each other.
Sorry, I’m just tired of seeing this topic being posted to boredom on FP.
Motorcycle clubs are a group of badassed men that need the camaraderie of each other ...... after they've been discharged into a world that sticks it up their ass in thanx for their service to their country
They're not punk kids ... they're grown men with wives and children and jobs and a sincere (albeit libertarian) love for the USA
You'd want a crippled one with you in a fox hole
The fact is that the conflict between some of the biker clubs was going to happen.
One club was doing drug-running and other illegal cross border operations with the permission and support of the government.
Many of the other clubs wanted that stopped. The government wanted to ‘make a statement’ so they went there totally prepared for a shoot out that they knew was inevitable.
The government wasn’t there to keep the violence from happening. They were there to make sure enough people died to MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE WAS UNDERSTOOD. The blanket indictments were another way to GET THAT MESSAGE ACROSS.
STAY OUT OF THE WAY OF the illegal operations being controlled by the government and certain biker clubs.
Is this how YOU react to seeing eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil bikers?
That would be an interesting side story for someone like WND to carry.
I do draw a distinction between motorcycle clubs and motorcycle outlaw gangs having been a member (many years ago) to an original HOG chapter and the largest LEO MC club at the time. Also, having raced Class C from 1970 to 1976 I have been a member of several small AMA affiliated clubs. So, please don’t try and infuse clubs like the Bandidos et al into the legitimate fraternity of motorcycle enthusiasts.
No, I just don’t act like a menstruating woman because they took Sons of Anarchy off the air. Jeeez.
You don’t have to click every link, ya know.
“The day was horrible and the feds invented the entire scenario”
The feds weren’t even there!
“They’re not punk kids ... they’re grown men with wives and children and jobs and a sincere (albeit libertarian) love for the USA”
ROTFLMAO!
“Could the media stop using “biker” and start using “man”, or “alleged” (whatever)”
Gangster works pretty well here.
From what I can understand
Twin Peaks was supposed to be a legitimate meeting about various laws and such
I have read that traditionally, just a few members of each club would show up, but the Bandidos came in force and the testimonies I have read indicated the men meeting knew something was up from the beginning .... and they suspected government influence
“Twin Peaks was supposed to be a legitimate meeting about various laws and such”
Twin Peaks was a Texas CoC meeting. Basically, all the bikers have to pay extortion money to the Bandidos (which head the Texas Coc) through the CoC dues. Thus the Bandidos get to say who rides where and who wears what.
Waco was a Cossacks town. The Bandidos moved their ‘meeting’ to Waco shortly before the scheduled date as a ‘show of force’ to the Bandidos who were NOT CoC members and were NOT paying extortion money to the Bandidos.
knarf: 1998! Another old timer coming out of the woods ...
Better?
sure describes your little hobby horse.
eeeeeeeeeeeevil bikers.
Why would Feds need to be, with pawns to do their will?
You can’t have it both ways when most at the melee were trying to hide. They were there to fight or they weren’t. For “gang” surely one would expect better forces? The eensy weensy personal weapons obviously were not prevailing.
You are certainly a chief example of why the trial ought to happen outside Waco.
“You canât have it both ways when most at the melee were trying to hide.”
The code says to show up and support your ‘brothers’.
Lot’s of them forgot about the code when the SHTF!
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