[BroJoeK]

cowboyway: "No, you're intentionally misrepresenting Jefferson's words to justify your weak, and growing weaker, position."

More rubbish.

cowboyway: "My question to you was, and is, do you believe that maintaining the union is more important than the constitutional guarantee of individual liberty?"

Your problem is, you insist on misunderstanding the correct answers.
So read carefully, I'll say it yet again: Our Founders' Original Intent, as confirmed in Texas v White, was that secession is lawful under two conditions:

1. Mutual consent, which is what your quotes from Jefferson expressed.

2. In effect, a major breach of contract, such as "usurpations" or "abuses of power" which absolutely match your question here.

cowboyway: "Original Intent is a conservative position.
Misrepresenting the facts and deliberate revisionism by you False Causers is not."

Then you, FRiend, should stop misrepresenting & deliberately revising the real facts of history.

Starting right now.

[cowboyway]

as confirmed in Texas v White, was that secession

Dictum/Dicta: Opinions of a judge that do not embody the resolution or determination of the specific case before the court. Expressions in a court's opinion that go beyond the facts before the court and therefore are individual views of the author of the opinion and not binding in subsequent cases as legal precedent.

Still spitting out that revisionist history, huh professor? You False Causers are hilariously pathetic bunch.

You still haven't answered my question: do you believe that maintaining the union is more important than the constitutional guarantee of individual liberty? Yes or no, professor. Yes or no.