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To: Resolute Conservative
You mean that thing Lincoln brought up 3 years into the war when they were getting their butts handed to them and needed to find a new rally cry?

Let's see, three years into the war would be April 1864. Lee had been defeated at Gettysburg. The South was cut in half at the Mississippi. Sherman was getting ready to head for Atlanta and Grant was getting ready to go after Lee. The blockade was effectively cutting the South off from the rest of the world, the Confederate economy was collapsing, and nobody in Europe was willing to look upon the Confederacy as an independent country. So...who was getting their butt handed to them again?

20 posted on 05/12/2015 3:16:15 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

True enough but the war started before 1861 (1850-1860 give or take) with northern strong-arming, voter gerrymandering, and tariffs. The shooting started in 1861.


31 posted on 05/12/2015 3:25:05 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: DoodleDawg

Well said.


206 posted on 05/13/2015 11:18:58 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: DoodleDawg

>>and nobody in Europe was willing to look upon the Confederacy as an independent country<<

Ya don’t say...
Some historians have argued that France’s real goal was to help break up the American Union, at the time in the midst of a civil war, by helping the southern Confederacy: “The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build a powerful army. This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War.” The consequence of Cinco de Mayo to the United States has been thus recognized: “The defeat of the French army had consequences for America as well...the French defeat denied Napoleon III the opportunity to resupply the Confederate rebels for another year.”


418 posted on 06/01/2015 10:31:13 AM PDT by servantboy777
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