Should Jews Have To Pay Reparations for Slavery? Looking Back, Jewish Record Far From Admirable

The Jewish Forward ^ | January 30, 2015 | Richard Kreitner

[wardaddy]

And how many whites they rob kill and rape

[wardaddy]

Not meaning to argue but Germany has made payments

To Holocaust victims

A spigot still open btw

[wardaddy]

Boy

You just said what I feel more eloquently than I can think it

[wardaddy]

The South unlike Jews has no defender

Me.....I’m a small club

We’ve been the punching bag of the feeble self righteous since Jerry Lewis

Jewish coincidentally

Claimed on Carson in mid 60s on national TV how proud he was he got to take a dump on a passenger jet flying over Mississippi

But just to show the times....there was actually outrage...big time and apologies

So color me one of little empathy when folks get to taste their own spit up

I’ve always said biggest cultural foes of Jews in the U.S. are each other....with some blacks a close second.....example Levin versus Weinstein.....Levin in the role of white knight of course

It’s like any religious thread here....Catholics versus ex Catholics

I just wonder if the South is so horrible why are Yankees and left coast folks streaming in here non stop to raise families

[Verginius Rufus]

After the Israelites conquered the Land of Canaan, the 12 tribes had specific areas, with Judah in the south (including Jerusalem). After Solomon's death the Kingdom of Israel split, with the 10 Northern tribes refusing to accept Solomon's son Rehoboam and having a series of dynasties until their kingdom was ended by the Assyrians. The southern kingdom consisted of Judah and Benjamin.

Later the land that had been the territory of Judah became known as Judaea. The Latin name Judaeus for an inhabitant of Judaea becomes "Jew" in English, but is applied to people of the Jewish faith living elsewhere (there were many Jews in Alexandria and elsewhere--the Diaspora).

The Samaritans of New Testament times were descended from the 10 Northern tribes, although it seems that the Jews assimilated members of the 10 Northern tribes as well. Luke 2.36 identifies a woman as being of the tribe of Asher. St. Paul tells us that he was a member of the tribe of Benjamin.

The Levites were scattered among the other tribes and modern DNA studies suggest that Jews who have a family tradition that their ancestors were priests do in fact share a common ancestry, presumably that of the tribe of Levi.

I think modern Jews are primarily descended from the tribe of Judah but some could be descended from the other tribes of Israel, but there may be others here who are better informed.

Long after the Arab conquest, much of the Egyptian population remained Christian. Even though the Arab language eventually replaced the Coptic language, there probably weren't that many Arabs who settled in Egypt, so even Muslim Egyptians of today may be mainly descended from the ancient Egyptians.

Of course in ancient times there were a number of invaders of Egypt--Nubians, Macedonians, etc. There were Greek-speaking towns in Egypt in the Roman period. Alexandria for a long time was off-limits to the native Egyptians and inhabited by Greek speakers (Greeks, Macedonians, and Jews). Some of these other groups may have contributed something to the ancestry of modern Egyptians.

[hlmencken3]

Just to be clear, the term “Jew” has no official status, unless intended to mean of the Tribe of Judah. Officially, the term for a Jew is “son (daughter) of Israel”.

“Jew” in modern usage is a colloquialism.

[elcid1970]

Very interesting! I didn’t know there was a Coptic language; it must be based on ancient Egyptian of course. Wonder if it has been utilized to help decipher hieroglyphics, or did that require the discovery of the Rosetta Stone?

And there was a Jewish Diaspora long before the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. Mentioned in Scripture when the Apostles addressed Jews assembled in Jerusalem from all over the known world, each foreign Jew hearing them in his own language.

Modern Egyptians claim to possess a unique national identity within the Arab world, your description of Egypt’s ethnic history helps to explain that.

[Verginius Rufus]

"Considering that black men are being killed by police...

Considering that two-thirds of the men killed by police are white, the proportion of black men killed by police is pretty close to the percentage of crimes committed by black men.

[Verginius Rufus]

Jerry Lewis probably never heard of Woodrow W. Borah (1912-1999), a native of Utica, Mississippi, who was Jewish, one of the outstanding Latin American historians in the US in the 20th century.

Judah P. Benjamin was not the only Southern Jew before the post-WWII influx of Jews from Yankeedom.

[Verginius Rufus]

Yes, Coptic is the final stage of the ancient Egyptian language (which had changed considerably in the thousands of years since the earliest hieroglyphic texts). It was written in the Greek alphabet with the addition of a few letters for sounds not found in Greek.

The Coptic script was used by the early Egyptian Christians (much easier to learn the Coptic alphabet than the Demotic Egyptian script, which did not completely die out until about the 5th century of the Christian era), and Coptic is still used as a liturgical language by the Coptic Church. The use of Coptic as a spoken language in daily life seems to have died out about the 17th century.

Coptic has a lot of loanwords taken from Greek (which was widely spoken in Ptolemaic and Roman Egypt) but it did play a role in the decipherment of the earlier Egyptian scripts.

[Pollster1]

No living person should pay reparations for actions 150+ years ago. No responsible person should discuss reparations as if it was an idea that could be taken seriously. If private property is taken by force to pay reparations, that property has been stolen and can morally be recovered by the owners, even if FedGov is complicit in the theft.

[Eleutheria5]

Now just a cotton pickin’ (heh) minit here. Let’s be fair. All guilt and monetary liability is passed down through the generations, especially for crimes committed back when they weren’t considered crimes yet, so long as they have some money to loot right now. So all Jooos! owe a collective debt to all blacks, even the descendants of those that owned slaves themselves. Furthermore, anyone who crossed main street against the light with their horse and buggy back in 1885, when there was no light, had better have a good explanation, and his descendants some money in their bank accounts.

It doesn’t work the other way around, of course. Egyptians were all black and could fly, and all blacks were once Egyptians, until Europeans came along and ruined everything. But they don’t owe didly to Jooos! for building the pyramids, because...because....well, because. That’s why. So there.

[Eleutheria5]

Yes. The potatoe famine and also “bloody sunday” when they shot you in the head and then pretended that they didn’t. They murdered you, and now must pay you reparations. You’re Irish, so all crimes against the Irish accrue to your benefit.

[eddiespaghetti]

xcellent!

[eddiespaghetti]

He (Jerry Lewis) also never heard of David Yulee (b. David Yulee Levy), who in fact was the first Jewish U.S. senator, who was from Florida.

Not even worth inquiring if he knew of: Col. Adolf Proskauer, commander of the the 9th Alabama Regiment at Gettysburg; Gen. Abraham Charles Myers, Quartermaster General of the Confederate Army (for whom, IINM, Fort Myers is named); Maj. Simon Baruch (father of Bernard); etc. etc.

[onedoug]

Go after the Muslims first. They are still trading in slaves.

You know it!

[onedoug]

Yankeedom.

LMAO

[notted]

Agreed. No one should punish a child for the sins of their parents, and neither, should any child prosper, because of ill gotten gains of their parents.

[golux]

Well said. It always amazes me how people who claim to understand American exceptionalism completely misunderstand Lee and the cause. It is almost as if they concocted the poison they curse.

[golux]

Thanks! I appreciate a thumbs-up from time to time in this lonely swamp!