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800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers
AFP/Dublin/Yahoo News ^ | 06/042014 | unknown

Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums

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A junior government minister has called for an inquiry to be established and the issue is expected to be discussed at cabinet.

The development is a yet another damning disclosure of a Church-run institution in Ireland following almost countless revelations of abuse and neglect at Catholic-run schools or institutions in recent decades.

1 posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums
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To: boatbums; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; mlizzy; ...

“The recently discovered death records for St Mary’s show the 796 children died from malnutrition and infectious diseases, such as measles and TB.”

And the haters want to make this into a scandal. Sad.


2 posted on 06/04/2014 9:54:40 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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Records indicate that the former Tuam workhouse’s septic tank was converted specifically to serve as the body disposal site for the orphanage.

Respectful of the unmarked grave in their midst, residents long have kept the grass trimmed and built a small grotto with a statue of the Virgin Mary.

- See more at: http://www.shepherdstownchronicle.com/page/content.detail/id/517531/Irish-church-under-fire-over-children-s-mass-grave.html?isap=1&nav=5134#sthash.kdeb4zsP.dpuf


3 posted on 06/04/2014 9:57:55 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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“The recently discovered death records for St Mary’s show the 796 children died from malnutrition and infectious diseases, such as measles and TB.” And the haters want to make this into a scandal. Sad.

What is REALLY sad is when the bigots want to pretend that this kind of a scandal didn't really happen and to speak about it is just being "hateful". Did these babies/children HAVE to be starved to death (that IS what causes MALNUTRITION - malnourished)?

4 posted on 06/04/2014 9:59:17 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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5 posted on 06/04/2014 10:04:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: boatbums

Orphans in a poor country being taken care of by the Church is a “scandal”? That the poor are with us is reality. That the poor in a poor country have not enough food is reality.

20 or so deaths a year is shocking here and now. In the depression in Ireland, not so much.

Bigot is a nasty phrase, are you calling me a bigot?


6 posted on 06/04/2014 10:04:29 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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So the nuns purposely starved the babies to death? Do you want to claim that.

That is the problem with this AP article - their bias forms the structure of this article. They don’t accuse the nuns of starving babies (they never could and be honest) - but they let credulous readers like you make the conclusion for yourself.

Another point - Thank God we don’t have nuns doing this work now. Its SOOOO much easier to simply abort the babies and, well, flush them down septic systems. (that’s sarcasm)


7 posted on 06/04/2014 10:08:19 PM PDT by PGR88
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An average of 23 deaths a year seems excessive. I wonder how many people were housed there at one time? Was infanticide considered preferable to abortion? It will be interesting to see what the inquiry shows.


8 posted on 06/04/2014 10:08:45 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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“An average of 23 deaths a year seems excessive.”

Really? Based on what data?


9 posted on 06/04/2014 10:09:36 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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This would reflect an Ireland that, in the first half of the 20th century, had one of the worst infant mortality rates in Europe, with tuberculosis rife. - See more at: http://www.shepherdstownchronicle.com/page/content.detail/id/517531/Irish-church-under-fire-over-children-s-mass-grave.html?isap=1&nav=5134#sthash.kdeb4zsP.hsOcOl2C.dpuf
10 posted on 06/04/2014 10:11:18 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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“Conservative Catholic teaching at the time denied children of unmarried parents baptism and therefore burial in consecrated lands.”

What’s your spin on that?


11 posted on 06/04/2014 10:14:04 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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With no health service and deep poverty, the number of children working class parents had to watch die was horrendous. Infant mortality soared. In 1926 in Ireland 120 of every 1,000 babies under the age of one died compared to six of every 1,000 today.36 As late as 1949 over 50 of every 1,000 babies died before the age of one. One child in 16 born in 1949 did not live to see her or his fifth birthday. Diarrhoea and enteritis were the biggest killers of babies. Tuberculosis and other preventable and treatable diseases swept through the slums, killing older children. All these children died of poverty.37

http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj91/horgan.htm


12 posted on 06/04/2014 10:15:03 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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Spin? What are you trying to say there bramps?


13 posted on 06/04/2014 10:15:42 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums

Bigot is a nasty phrase, are you calling me a bigot?


14 posted on 06/04/2014 10:19:40 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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That you are defending evil.


15 posted on 06/04/2014 10:20:09 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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"The women were ostracised by the conservative-Catholic society and were often forced to hand over their children for adoption."

They hid the remains of the children in a septic tank. Hideous.


16 posted on 06/04/2014 10:20:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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“That you are defending evil.”

What “evil” am I “defending” bramps?


17 posted on 06/04/2014 10:20:45 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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“They hid the remains of the children in a septic tank. Hideous.”

Wrong. Try again.


18 posted on 06/04/2014 10:21:11 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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Records indicate that the former Tuam workhouse’s septic tank was converted specifically to serve as the body disposal site for the orphanage.

Respectful of the unmarked grave in their midst, residents long have kept the grass trimmed and built a small grotto with a statue of the Virgin Mary.

- See more at: http://www.shepherdstownchronicle.com/page/content.detail/id/517531/Irish-church-under-fire-over-children-s-mass-grave.html?isap=1&nav=5134#sthash.kdeb4zsP.dpuf

19 posted on 06/04/2014 10:22:17 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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And Protestants deny all children baptism until they are in their teens.

So?

20 posted on 06/04/2014 10:22:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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