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To: SvenMagnussen; WildHighlander57; Ray76; Cold Case Posse Supporter; LucyT
You’re quoting a policy statement from the State Department updated in 2012. The FAM is updated and changed with each administration. The FAM in 1968 is vastly different from the FAM in 2012.

The U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual was first published in 1973.

Since you have access to USCIS archives (as mentioned on your FR infopage) could you provide the 1968 version of the 7 FAM 1200, 7 FAM 1290?

This should be interesting. ;-)
268 posted on 03/28/2013 9:26:34 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Brown Deer wrote:

“....The U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual was first published in 1973......”

That’s right, I remember seeing a reference to an older document number (’7 FAM supersedes ‘ or xxx is superseded by 7 FAM).

More digging :D


269 posted on 03/28/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Brown Deer

“The U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual was first published in 1973.”

I did not know the Foreign Affairs Manual did not exist in 1968. You are correct and I am wrong.

It also means the issuance of CLNs was open to interpretation as to who is eligible and who is not eligible. No CLN is issued without the written consent of the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State is guided by the foreign policy pronouncements of POTUS at that time.

So, instead of looking at the post-1973 FAM, or it’s predecessor policy and procedures manual (if any), we should be asking ourselves would the President of the United States in 1968 put forth a policy to allow a 7-year-old living with an Indonesian father and American mother in Indonesia to renounce his U.S. Citizenship.

What would LBJ do? I’m pretty sure he told SoS Rusk to issue the kid his CLN with the caveat he could move back to the U.S. and recapture his U.S. Citizenship with a written request and an oath of allegiance anytime up to 6 months past his 18th birthday.

I’m thinking about writting an article about this on my blog http://svenmagnussen.blogspot.com .


275 posted on 03/28/2013 10:38:38 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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