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To: Blood of Tyrants
Let's say your American citizen mother lives in the US and she is going to have a baby which is you. She goes across the border one day to shop in Mexico and birth pangs set in and you are born in Mexico. You are a natural born American citizen. Citizenship passes from the mother to you the instant you are born no matter which land you are in at the time.

McCain's father was on an American base in Panama. The wife was there, too. They were still American citizens when they left the base and went to a hospital for the birth of McCain. He was a natural born citizen as citizenship passed from his parents to him. He was a natural born citizen.

Cruz's mother was an American citizen. She had her son in Canada but he was an American citizen the minute he was born as his mother's citizenship passed from her to him. He was a natural born citizen.

The founders did not want say, an Englishman, a citizen of England, to be able to come here and become a “naturalized citizen” and become president. That is why they wrote that law. They didn't want a Frenchman who was a citizen of France to come here and become a “naturalized” citizen and become president.

McCain and Cruz have always been American citizens - they did not have to become a “naturalized” citizen.

The problem with Obama, is, we don't even know if the mother was a US citizen or if she had renounced that citizenship when she married whomever Muslim she married and went to live in the country where the man lived. If she stayed an American citizen, and Obama was born in Africa, they had a choice of making him a citizen of Africa or America or giving him dual citizenship.

If he had been born here and she was an American mother and and the father African, they had a choice for him to be an American Citizen or African citizen or dual citizenship. I think he was born in Africa and was of African citizenship because they wanted him to be and they weren't keen on American anyway. I think that is how he got grants to come here to school. He was an African foreign student.

My grandson was born in England of an English mother and a US citizen father. He is a natural born American by his father and a natural born Englishman by his mother. He had an American passport by the time he was two or three days old. He also has an English passport. He is a natural born American citizen, not a "naturalized" American citizen.

Piers Morgan is here on a visa I guess. He is no kind of American citizen no matter how much he gestures and postures and raves and rants. England doesn't want him back and I can see why. What a disgusting man.

26 posted on 03/21/2013 6:38:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

Many argue that even if Obastard has dual citizenship, THAT disqualifies him from being president.


34 posted on 03/21/2013 7:23:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Marcella

When an American renounces US Citizenship, they are issued a Certificate of Loss of Nationality at a US Consulate office in a foreign country. No one has uncovered that for Stanley Ann Dunham. Once a person renounces, they no longer have a US Passport.
If Obama was born outside of the US, his mother was too young to pass on US natural born citizenship to him. His mother was 18 years and nine months old and she would have needed to be 19 years old (5 years past her 14th birthday), hence the interest in finding proof of a foreign birth for Obama that has thus far not turned up.
Obama was born with dual US and United Kingdom and Colonies citizenship through his father. He lost that United Kingdom and Colonies citizenship when he was two years old and Kenya became an independent nation. Obama then inherited Kenyan citizenship which he maintained until he was 21 years old. However Kenya does not recognize dual citizenship so Obama would have had to elect to become a citizen of Kenya. Kenya’s law gives a person two years past their twenty first birthday to choose Kenyan citizenship, so Obama lost Kenyan citizenship on his 23rd birthday, August 4, 1984.


36 posted on 03/21/2013 7:35:50 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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