Posted on 02/27/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by Kaslin
How many of "them" are there?
“They didn’t do that. Instead, they argued on appeal that a drug dog alerting on a smell doesn’t provide probable cause.”
The point is not whether the guy was guilty, the point is the law was expanded to give “probable cause” based on the presence or absence of a dog.
You may or may not have stuff you’d rather cops not find in your car. Now you have no presumption of innocence - they will search your car. Depending on the cop, they may or may not find something in your car when they search.
there will be more spending on police dogs now, because the police dogs give police more “flexibility” when dealing with citizens who may simply not wish to be searched.
There is all manner of mischief possible here - all because of a dog being there.
What does that have to do with the use of drug sniffing dogs?
Who is there to determine if the dog's behavior constitutes an "alert?" No one except the police officer. Unless you're in the habit of bringing an animal behavioral expert with you at all times to testify in court, the presence of a dog gives LEOs a legal loophole to search at will. Because cops lie. In fact, they take classes to learn how to lie, to facilitate interrogations.
I understand the implication. You are using an example to condemn an entire profession. That makes you little different from the "rotten apples".
RICO Lawsuit Against NHP About Drug Sniffing Dog Program
...The suit claims improperly trained dogs are taught to respond to handler cueing to alert for drugs, rather than actually sniffing for drugs. This type of training and the resulting dogs are referred to in the K-9 training industry as “Trick Ponies.” The dogs are trained to falsely alert to drugs by the cueing action of the handlers, resulting in improper and illegal searches of private citizens. This can result in illegal seizure of property and money, even when no drugs are discovered in the subsequent search...
Sorry, I wasn't aware that you were so fragile.
RICO Lawsuit Against NHP About Drug Sniffing Dog Program.......The suit claims
Claims aren't proof, are they?
That is the typical absurd abuse of language and concepts that leads to bad SCOTUS decisions. A dog IS a method. No different than jimmying open a car trunk.
Bottom line: the courts disagree with you. The Supreme Court disagrees 9-0. It isn’t close.
The Supreme Court makes lots of bad decisions. Roe. Kelo. Raich. This is another one.
So then, should these enablers of tyranny [the dogs] be preemptively killed? It would be an interesting, and ironic, twist if citizens started killing the police’s dogs.
That may depend on the court involved; NM, for example, considers the vehicle to be an extension of the domicile [home].
Well, what's this?
Bad Dog! Anger at Police Pooch named Bono who ALWAYS says there are Drugs in a Car
The same people your ilk claim never are truthful.
Bad Dog! Anger at Police Pooch named Bono who ALWAYS says there are Drugs in a Car
Too bad for the criminal and criminal apologists! the judge ruled that other factors, including the dog's training and flawless performance during re-certification sessions, were enough to overcome a challenge raised by Green's attorney.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167170/Bad-dog-Anger-police-pooch-named-Bono-ALWAYS-says-drugs-car.html#ixzz2MFHM3MZG k
So do people who blatantly thumb their nose at the law. We have a process for overturning what some consider bad laws.
We also have something called the Constitution. Something SCOTUS has become quite fond of banging upon.
The very thing that gives power to the people to overturn what are considered bad laws.
Like Obamacare?
The Constitution is supposed to not allow bad laws. But too many people cheer on its demise as long as their pet agendas are being allowed.
The Constitution created the legislative branch of government. The legislative branch creates the laws. The people elect the legislators.
And the Constitution is supposed to limit their powers. It no longer does.
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