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To: Fred Nerks

Cross-posting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/replies?c=132

To: Fractal Trader; LucyT; Fred Nerks
Joseph Toutonghi was born on April 2, 1932 in Cairo, Egypt and emigrated to the U.S. on the ship “Vulcania” on June 12, 1946. He married Mary Jean Zolin (the babysitter) on November 12, 1955 in Los Angeles. Their first daughter Mary Toutonghi was born and died on August 23, 1956 in Los Angeles. Gabrielle Marie was born on July 6, 1959. Michael Joseph (former Vice-President at Microsoft) was born on October 14, 1962. There were two more children before their divorce, and his second marriage to Ruta I. Mindenbergs of Latvia.

Mary Toutonghi “recalls as best she can the dates she babysat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959...”

Do the math.

132 posted on 04/12/2011 5:45:17 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)


To: Brown Deer
thanks, really, one should laugh, if it wasn’t so sad. If that was Stanley Ann Dunham for whom Mary baby-sat in January 1961, Stanley Ann Dunham would still have been in High School when that child was conceived.

And who was it identified Anna Obama as Stanley Ann Dunham?

THE WOMAN WHO OPERATES SEATTLE MUSEUM OF THE MYSTERIES.

Now ain’t that a giggle? She also does GHOST TOURS and holds seances.

137 posted on 04/12/2011 6:41:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)


To: Brown Deer
In all fairness to Joseph, I doubt if he had any idea of what was going on, he and Mary divorced in the seventies iirc. Here’s something Joseph wrote in 2006:

Regardless of what misguided liberals and the Democrat Party thinks ours is a Christian Nation. From its founders to the present. I am an immigrant from a Moslem country and the main reason I am in this country since 1946 is that in the moderate Moslim country I’m from there was no future unless you were Moslem. I don’t think there is any good reason to change what we have done for hundreds of years in our country to accomodate a handful of immigrants Who demand we change our culture for their convenience. If they don’t believe in the Bible that is fine neither does an atheist a Hindu or a criminal and so on…. We should still demand that they take the oath on the Bible as that is meaningful to us. If they violate that oath they should suffer the consequences.

Comment by joseph toutonghi — December 21, 2006 @ 10:36 pm

138 posted on 04/12/2011 6:46:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)


To: Brown Deer; LucyT; All
Do the math.
Pushing baby Barack’s birth back to January 1961 might be consistent with Mary Toutonghi’s account, but it’s inconsistent with Stanley Ann Dunham’s college transcripts, which have her enrolling in the U. Of Washington in August 1961. The only way to explain the discrepency would be to accept that Stanley Ann was not Baby Barack’s mother. But then why would 17 year-old Stanley Ann be taking responsibility for another woman’s baby while attending college at the U. of Washington? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

189 posted on 04/13/2011 12:46:43 PM PDT by justiceseeker93


1,090 posted on 05/08/2013 12:29:37 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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Why did Gabrielle attend Clovis High School in New Mexico, where her stepmother Ruta was living?


1,091 posted on 05/08/2013 12:37:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; justiceseeker93; Greenperson
I didn't respond to you, did I, justice? You wrote:

The only way to explain the discrepency would be to accept that Stanley Ann was not Baby Barack’s mother. But then why would 17 year-old Stanley Ann be taking responsibility for another woman’s baby while attending college at the U. of Washington? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

The reason I didn't reply might have been because it was so patently obvious that the girl Mary baby-sat for could not have been Stanley Ann Dunham, so there was no question of her being at the university at the same time as she was caring for a child.

While Mary was babysitting a seven month old child for ANNA OBAMA in August 1961, Stanley Ann Dunham was showing a newborn to Susan Blake, and telling her she was flying out to Boston that very same day.

Makes me wonder, just how would Solomon the Wise have worked that one out? Might he have also decided that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn't anyone's mother - and that's why Susan Blake had to change the dirty diaper?

As the kenyan student wasn't in Boston until almost a year later, what we needed to ask was - just to whom was Stanley Ann delivering that child in Boston?

1,096 posted on 05/08/2013 4:05:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Tassie!)
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To: Brown Deer

“Pushing baby Barack’s birth back to January 1961”

There has been great fuss made over MO’s January birthday. The 1st ‘dinner’ date was too much for me. I thought to myself that I’d bet that was really 0bama’s.


1,120 posted on 05/09/2013 2:51:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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