Today's Terrorist Bank Account Number: No Kidding, It's Right Here!

America's Voices ^ | May 17,2002 | Jeremy Reynalds

[JohnathanRGalt]

Previous Discussions:
Is the American government requiring American companies to host terrorist web sites?
Support your local (TEXAS) Mujahideen

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Today's Terrorist Bank Account Number: 

Ayman ataya Mansoor.  Bank Account No.:  38924/2/510 Arab Bank-Gaza Branch-Palestine

May 17, 2002

Government officials and officials at Internet Service Providers either don't know or aren't talking about terrorist web sites they are allegedly requiring American Internet Service Providers to maintain on their servers.

The sites include www.azzam.com , apparently hosted by www.burst.net .  The latest comment I received by e-mail from burst.net Customer Service manager Matthew McCormick read, "At this point, we cannot release any information in regards to this matter.  I cannot divulge any information to this, and must remain silent."

I didn't fare any better in finding out what's going on with the Hamas web site .  Apparently hosted at the behest of the government by "Everyone's Internet" in Houston, TX, on one portion of the site, there is an appeal for donations to allow the Hamas to purchase guns and bullets "to help defend the Arab and Muslim Ummah".
My concern about such strongly-worded rhetoric led me to call the Houston FBI, who promised me a phone call back.  I'm still waiting!

Being a relatively impatient guy (and also wanting to fulfill what I felt were my duties as a citizen), I then called the Albuquerque FBI, where a worker who was unaware of the situation asked me to e-mail her information.  This was her e-mailed response.  "Thank you for your concern.  This matter will be forwarded to the appropriate desk."

And then Dean Boyd, a spokesman for the U.S. Customs Service in Washington D.C. (which, according to one media account, was the government agency that asked "Everyone's Internet" to keep the qassam site afloat), said he wished he could tell me something, but he is unable to do so.

By this time, I figured that there's one of two things that could be going on.  Either the FBI is stupid and irresponsible, which isn't inconceivable; the Associated Press reported earlier this month in relation to the 9/11 terrorist attacks that FBI headquarters didn't take any action on a memo from its Arizona office basically warning of impending problems.

That document read, "there were a large number of Arabs seeking pilot, security and airport operations training at, at least one U.S. flight school and which urged a check of all flight schools to identify more possible Middle Eastern students."

If it wasn't stupidity, something else was afoot.  And that something else is more and more looking like there's government involvement with these sites (as the two ISP's involved are claiming).

I'm not the only one who's thinking this.  In a recent e-mail I received, a reader commented, "Two possibilities occur to me:  the government has hacked the sites and is able to monitor who is accessing them or the government has actually created the web sites for the same purpose, as bait.  I feel the odds that this is the situation are overwhelming and while the cover has been blown, the sites are probably being accessed internationally, and the sites may be viable for a while longer."

Hopefully, for not too much longer.  These web sites are bad news all the way round.  For example:  the Hamas web site provides an e-mail address for interested readers to get information about sending money to the cause.  Curious about what sort of response I might receive, I sent an e-mail to the address and within a few minutes received the following form letter back, along with a bank account number, which is reprinted in its entirety and just as I received it.

"in the name of Allah the most gracious the merciful.  salam wa alikom wa rahmatu allah wa barakatu  How are you brother?  We hope that you are doing very well!
Thanks be to Allah and peace and blessings of Allah be upon His prophet Mohammed and upon his family, companions and followers.  Dear noble mujahid brother,
In fact words alone can not express our gratitude that you answered our appeal for donation, may Allah reward you and admit you to the Garden of Eden and paradise as well.  We also ask Him to help you especially on the Day of Judgement.
Dear donor, We assure you that all the money will be given to no body but to all the Mujahideen in Palestine.  This is the bank account:  Name:  Ayman ataya Mansoor.  Bank account no.:  38924/2/510 Arab bank- Gaza branch- Palestine
Please send us a copy of the receipt (the paper that shows you paid the money) by mail or tell us the moment you send the amount of money.  Also please tell us the field in which you prefer your money to be spent on such as 'on martyrdom attacks, on buying weapons to the Mujahideen, training the youth, on inventing and developing missiles, on mortars, on explosives.  or if you want us to decide it is also okay?'

send to e-mail (ok-support@qassam.org) when you send.
Note:  If you want to send money in the future, please let us know and do not use the same bank account, because we constantly change due to privacy and security necessity.  So if you want just contact us and we will send you the bank account.  may Allah reward you and be satisfied with you and make you a true mujahid.  Thank you so very much from the leadership of Izz el-Deen el-Qassam Martyr Phalanxes.  The military Wing of the Islamic Resistance Movement 'Hamas' Palestine."

Folks, how long is this going to be allowed to go on?  So-called "conspiracies of silence" worry me, and it looks like we've got one right here!  Please contact your local talk radio show, your senators and congressmen and ask them just what the heck is going on.

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Jeremy Reynalds founded and operates "Joy Junction", New Mexico's largest emergency homeless shelter, in Albuquerque ( joyjunction.org ).  They do not accept government or United Way funding of any type.  He writes the weekly column "My View" for America's Voices on current topics and events from a Christian conservative perspective.  His commentaries also appear in other popular Internet web-zines.  E-mail Jeremy at jreynalds@americasvoices.org .

[JohnathanRGalt]

I've just launched a petition: DEMAND for ANSWERS: Why are ISPs forced to carry terrorist web sites? When we get 20,000 signatures, we'll send the petition to the US DoJ.
 -- Johnathan Galt

[nagdt]

could this be a USA patriot hackers delight? Send the bastards a virus that'll send their donations directly into WTC victim coffers!

[muawiyah]

It could be immensely valuable to us in our battle against the terrorists to know WHO checks out those sites.

Why would you want to lose the chance for such valuable intelligence unless you are one of "them", eh?!

[TomGuy]

The sites include www.azzam.com , apparently hosted by www.burst.net

burst.net is or was predominately an advertising provider. They may have added hosting.

[monday]

This is pretty standard operating procedure for federal law enforcement. They are interested in nailing EVERYONE whenever they are investigating organized crime, or in this case organized terrorists. They will keep them under surveillance for months, even watching while they commit crimes, because they are always hoping to catch Mr. Big.

In this case I wouldn't be surprised if they were carefully logging every e-mail response these guys get for their fund raising. They might even be logging the IP addresses of people who visit the site, not that that would help them much, but it might give them some idea how much support was say, US based as compared to Europe, or the Middle East.

On another note, if I was the criminal type, I might be tempted to write a bank draft on the terrorists bank account. Anyone with the right software and some blank checks can do it given their account number:) Wonder if anyone will try it? Surprise, Hamas no money for you...LOL

It's no wonder they change their bank accounts often:)

[RippleFire]

Apache/1.3.20(Win32)

[RippleFire]

Ooops. For the curious:

Azzam is Apache/1.3.20(Win32)

Hamas is Apache/1.3.20 Sun Cobalt (Unix) mod_throttle/3.1.2 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b PHP/4.1.2 mod_auth_pam_external/0.1 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_perl/1.25

[hoosiermama]

On another note, if I was the criminal type, I might be tempted to write a bank draft on the terrorists bank account. Anyone with the right software and some blank checks can do it given their account number:) Wonder if anyone will try it? Surprise, Hamas no money for you...LOL

They could write a check to the Hoosiermama Retirement Fund. I wouldn't object a bit.

[RightlySo]

You might want to take a look at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/549132/posts

I, too, called the FBI quite some time ago about Azzam.com. I got a response. Two, in fact. Azzam.com was subsequently taken offline for a brief period, but it appears to have resurfaced. No doubt that somewhere, buried deep within it, there is information about how to donate money to a specific account again.

[krogers58]

Perhaps your misguided judgement of the Feds, is not warranted. I could see many good things coming from such a sting as this:
1. Siphoning legitemate contributions Away from these organizations.
2. The Feds can track who you are, and where you are, from visiting this web site. The best hackers in the world, cannot get past router logs.
3. By gathering email addresses, as they have in your case, Predator can be unleashed, and all your "private" email will be routinely examined.
I'm sure many other things can be learned, I just don't want to spend the time thinking of all the possible good that can come from these types of web sites. Relax, let the Feds deal with it. You have to know, with all of your warnings, and emails, that they are on to these guys, and probably are behind this. Just don't write any personally embarassing things in your email for awhile.

[IVote2]

"Being a relatively impatient guy (and also wanting to fulfill what I felt were my duties as a citizen), I then called the Albuquerque FBI, where a worker who was unaware of the situation asked me to e-mail her information. This was her e-mailed response. "Thank you for your concern. This matter will be forwarded to the appropriate desk."

Right after 9/11 a friend alerted me to a news group on Yahoo, recruiting people to attack India. The group was soliciting to form a Bin Laden group. They also wanted money, arms and other things.

I called the FBI as did my friend and was told approximately the same thing that you were. The site disappeared in less than an hour.

A few months ago I had a call from a local FBI agent thanking me again for calling and he told me that they had indeed shut down the site.

Just because you didn't get an immediate response doesn't mean they aren't checking out the information. Thank you for being an alert citizen.

Regards Jen