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Americans are masters of destruction
The Observer ^ | Sunday March 10, 2002 | Abdel Bari Atwan

Posted on 03/21/2002 9:25:50 AM PST by vannrox

Americans are masters of destruction


The US is driving the Muslim world to hatred, says newspaper editor Abdel Bari Atwan

Terrorism crisis - Observer special
Islam and the West - Observer special


Sunday March 10, 2002
The Observer


It never occurred to me when I met Osama bin Laden in one of the caves of the Jalalabad overlooking Tora Bora mountains more than five years ago that this slim, rarely smiling man would be the leading figure responsible for paving the way for inter-religious, inter-cultural wars that may last for five or more decades but this is what he has done.


Although 11 September changed the Western world the effect on the Islamic world has been far greater. The gulf between the two is widening. Today many in the Islamic world are convinced that the US administration harbours real enmity for Islam and the Muslims. The inhumane treatment of the Muslim prisoners of war at Guantanamo Bay and the preparations for war on Iraq have only reinforced that impression.


Worse, as Arabs and Muslims we have been terrorised by the campaign launched in Afghanistan, the Philippines, Yemen and Georgia. The supposed potential dangers facing the West have not been eliminated. This campaign has given the mistaken impression that Muslims are the source of terrorism in the world, creating tensions and providing Islamic radical groups with the ammunition to recruit thousands of young Muslim men and women.


Now the humane foundations of Western civilisation - tolerance, democracy, a fair and independent judiciary, equality before the law and respect for human rights - are being questioned by Muslims worldwide. The US, which considers itself a 'republic of immigrants', has turned against all its values and principles, detaining thousands of its Arab and Muslim citizens. Even Britain has witnessed intense media, legal and political campaigns against its Arab and Muslim citizens.


In the past six months I have learned that the opinion of 'the other' is welcomed, but only rather restrictively. I have been threatened repeatedly and warned to refrain from expressing an opinion about the events. So far I have received 10 messages containing death threats. We must sympathise strongly with the victims of the September disaster and denounce all those who supported that action. But it has brought to everyone's attention that the source of the hatred expressed towards America across the Islamic world is Washington's imbalanced foreign policy.


Successive US administrations have supported the two worst things in the Islamic world: the Israeli occupation of the Arab-occupied territories and the corrupt dictatorial regimes that have been imposed on the people. The US will not win its war against terrorism unless it changes the way it sees the world and renounces its arrogant policy of resorting solely to military solutions in order to confront this phenomenon. There must be a long-term policy to deal with the roots of terrorism in order to eliminate the causes of the world's hatred for America.


The Americans are experts in destruction but novices in reconstruction, reform and renovation. They must learn fast.




TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 911; arab; blair; bush; clashofcivilizatio; terror; wtc
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Abdel Bari Atwan is editor of the Arab newspaper al Quds, which is based in London.



1 posted on 03/21/2002 9:25:50 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Americans are masters of destruction

Yes we are, thanks to our B1's, B2's, B-52's, AH-64's, M-1', F-16's, F15's etc. And don't you ever forget it.

2 posted on 03/21/2002 9:29:56 AM PST by ladtx
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To: vannrox
The Americans are experts in destruction

Coming soon to a hovel near you.

/john

3 posted on 03/21/2002 9:31:29 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: vannrox
The Americans are experts in destruction but novices in reconstruction, reform and renovation. They must learn fast.

This from a people that haven't had any reform in centuries.

4 posted on 03/21/2002 9:32:18 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: vannrox
The Americans are experts in destruction but novices in reconstruction, reform and renovation. They must learn fast.

Fascinating perspective, O camel-fellator!

Yes Americans know little about constructive behavior - we only took a vast wilderness and turned it into the most productive civilization know to man.

You Arabs, however, conquered and wrecked the two most impressive civilizations of the post-Roman period, the Byzantine and Persian empires. You haven't been able to pull your filthy, mongrel carcasses out of the gutter since then either.

In the classroom of world history, Islam is the poorly-dressed bully who came to school on the short bus.

5 posted on 03/21/2002 9:35:43 AM PST by wideawake
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To: arkfreepdom

"...The Americans are experts in destruction but novices in reconstruction, reform and renovation. They must learn fast..."


Yet why does everyone expect us to repair and support the countries that we fight? How many Billions of dollars is going to be sown into that desert country just right of IRAN? What about Japan? Russia? Germany? France? Italy?


6 posted on 03/21/2002 9:36:59 AM PST by vannrox
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They keep talking about how they don't like us, how we will regret upsetting them, etc. etc. So far, we have seen mostly words. Kind of like, Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never harm me.
7 posted on 03/21/2002 9:37:00 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: arkfreepdom
The Americans are experts in destruction but novices in reconstruction, reform and renovation. They must learn fast.

The USA has established the most advanced culture in the history of all humankind as we are the most advanced country ecomomically, socially, and scientifically. We have the most open, free, compassionate, and democratic society in history yet we are supposed to listen to some people whose culture has not produced anything in centuries, who still blame the Jews for 911, and supported the modern version of the Nazi party and the Waffen SS. The comparison is not even close.

8 posted on 03/21/2002 9:41:39 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: vannrox
The US is driving the Muslim world to hatred, says newspaper editor Abdel Bari Atwan

The Muslim world is driving the US to military action and forcible regime changes, says FReeper xm.

9 posted on 03/21/2002 9:43:43 AM PST by xm177e2
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The US is driving the Muslim world to hatred

Tough Crap. If your Jihadist buddies quit sending bus bombs and hit innocents like the chickenshits you are, we wouldn't be after you, now, would we.

10 posted on 03/21/2002 9:44:44 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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The logic eludes me, help me out, how can the US drive these people to a destination at which they already reside?
11 posted on 03/21/2002 9:46:10 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: arkfreepdom
Perhaps he should read history 101:

The Renaissance
Establishment of the United States and a Constitutional Republic
The Civil War, end of slavery
Women’s Suffrage
WWII, end of Fascism, Marshall Plan, reconstruction of Germany and Japan
Civil Rights Act in the 60’s
Freedom of Kuwait
Democratic form of government
Secular government, freedom of religion

I am curious about the Islamic tradition of non-violent improvement to their culture as well as how they have helped others to reconstruct and reorient their cultures. I guess I did not see that in the article, probably an oversight.

12 posted on 03/21/2002 9:48:54 AM PST by schu
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Back in September, I distinctly remember reading a POS article from an Egyptian thing, who expresssed his joy at the anthrax mailings, and stated that as a result of the mailings , the US would be forced to institute a new Marshall Plan for the entire Middle East. If this article is any indication, I think the things are starting to realize that they're NOT gonna all become rich of US tax dollars.
13 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:26 AM PST by kaylar
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To: Maelstrom
BINGO!!! Mael you hit the nail on the head.
14 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:37 AM PST by Anoy11_
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To: vannrox
The author of the article is obviously in need of a hot lead enema to purge himself of jihadism and its attendant syphillisation.
15 posted on 03/21/2002 9:51:38 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: xm177e2
Without the Americans, you stupid sand fleas would still be cooking with cow pies and trying to figure out what a book was let alone be able to read.

There is one thing that you would have from the modern world, your very own personel brand new white flag from your friendly french cowards.

Have a great day, and eat sh*&

16 posted on 03/21/2002 9:53:16 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: vannrox
Gee. Our enemies hate us. Who'd a thunk it?
17 posted on 03/21/2002 9:57:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: schu
Good list. You left off "free education and the opportunity for literacy for all, regardless of class, religion, or political standing." But, of course, his culture offers that, doesnt it? Especially to the poor and to women.
19 posted on 03/21/2002 9:58:55 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: chiefqc
Just one small correction to your excellent rant.

They would be cooking with Camel Pies. They aren't smart enough and ambitious enough to even herd cattle. A few goats and camels are @ their maximum abilities.

20 posted on 03/21/2002 9:59:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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