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Ukraine’s Maginot Line is about to crumble
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | May 17th, 2024 | Robert Clark

Posted on 05/17/2024 4:27:50 PM PDT by Mariner

They say one week is a long time in politics. Those same people have never been to war.

Six days ago, Ukrainian forces were just about hanging on across the near-1,000 kilometre front. Recent territorial losses to Russia – most notably the town of Avdiivka – in addition to recent delays in both US and EU military aid packages, had caused mounting concern for Ukraine’s fate in 2024.

Despite these recent battlefield set-backs, and delays in aid, it still felt as though Ukraine was buying time to rearm, reorganise, and redeploy an offensive counter-attack this summer.

That was six days ago, before up to 30,000 Russians – between two and three divisions worth – seemingly walked back across a previously hard-fought region of north-eastern Ukraine exactly 18 months ago, now swallowing up already thinly-spread Ukrainian reserve forces.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: anotherneoconfail; bidenswarofchoice; killkillkillforpeace; mic; pft; tothelastukrainian; ukiecannonfodder; ukraine; welfarewar; zelenskysfolly
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But we have a NATO general saying Russia doesn't have the numbers or the capability for a strategic breakthrough.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-nato-general-says-russian-035412735.html

That may, or may not be right.

1 posted on 05/17/2024 4:27:50 PM PDT by Mariner
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-nato-general-says-russian-035412735.html


2 posted on 05/17/2024 4:28:06 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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3 posted on 05/17/2024 4:30:48 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Mariner

There is zero chance of a successful counteroffensive. There wasn’t last summer either. Just more carnage.


4 posted on 05/17/2024 4:31:59 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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The Ruskies will confiscate all the weapons we’ve been giving the Ukes.


5 posted on 05/17/2024 4:33:24 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Mariner

Rumor is that the Ukes had to transfer about 30 battalions worth of troops up north.

Looks like the Ruskies are going to be playing local offensives up and down the line to keep the Ukes moving.


6 posted on 05/17/2024 4:36:08 PM PDT by glorgau
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The cost of one Zelensky yacht could have mined half of Kharkiv.

7 posted on 05/17/2024 4:40:49 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Ukraine’s Maginot Line is about to crumble

Doesn't a "Maginot Line" imply there are fortifications present?

8 posted on 05/17/2024 4:46:14 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
Our tax dollars at work

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9 posted on 05/17/2024 4:54:53 PM PDT by CapandBall
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When will the CIA assassinate Z-Man and blame RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA?


10 posted on 05/17/2024 4:59:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Mariner

speaking of NATO, I still suspect that “operation defender 2024”, that operation announced at the start of 2024, running thru end of May, would make some Ukraine noise.

There is Defender24 news now and then, but just mundane operational stuff. Hard to imagine an op that size (33 nations, 90,000 troops) is really just a run of the mill exercise without a deeper intent.


11 posted on 05/17/2024 5:06:22 PM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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I thought the Maginot Line was actually well constructed. The only problem is that the Nazis went around it.

The problem with the Ukrainian "fortifications" is that typical oligarchic corruption meant more money went to government officials than dragon's teeth, minefields, and trenches.

12 posted on 05/17/2024 5:20:06 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Seruzawa

Has there been any indication of talks?


13 posted on 05/17/2024 5:20:26 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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Talks? NATO and the MIC want forever war.


14 posted on 05/17/2024 5:23:57 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Ukraine’s Maginot Line is about to crumble

LOL


15 posted on 05/17/2024 5:27:11 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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“Kyiv must relearn the art of defence.”

It’s a bit late for that.


16 posted on 05/17/2024 5:37:26 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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Time for the Z-man to lead his compadres in another round of Dance Dance Revolution.

17 posted on 05/17/2024 5:52:59 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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So far, with an attacking force reported at somewhere between 30,000 and 50,000 soldiers Russia has managed to move the line of contact from the Russian border 5 miles into Ukraine.

That's not much of an offensive.

18 posted on 05/17/2024 8:26:24 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: JonPreston
I'll riff on your basic meme. . .

Bob

19 posted on 05/18/2024 12:56:17 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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Maybe instead of funneling millions to fake companies they should have used those millions to build a better defence...


20 posted on 05/18/2024 2:38:17 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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