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“If you can’t see that it is morally superior to fight against the pulling apart an innocent human being limb from limb, then frankly you have no business being on this website, or voting, for that matter.”

So you are saying you fully support anyone who goes into a Planned Parenthood clinic and starts killing everyone connected with abortions? If not, why not?

I take your point. I guess what I am getting at is that the term “murder” is inappropriate when speaking of abortion. To me it’s like the woman’s movement extending the definition of “rape” so far that it becomes something that extends to common sexual behavior. We all know what “murder” is; we are all opposed to it. To say that the 50% of the public that supports a woman’s right to have an abortion support murder is sophistry. There are profound reasons to support either side. We should recognize that and not seek to clothe ourselves in moral superiority in our support of either.

If I believed that what goes on at PP is murder, then I would not be deterred by the government’s sanctioning of it. If my next door neighbor were murdering her six year old child in the front yard, I would stop her at any cost, even using lethal force if necessary. The fact is that if she were headed to a PP clinic to abort a four week old fetus, I would not feel the need to use lethal force to prevent her from doing so. So, no, I don’t think it is murder to have an abortion. Otherwise I would be at the front lines of the PP clinics. What about you? You must be a troll or you would not tolerate murder.

What I’m saying is that murder is a crime that demands armed intervention to save lives. Unless you are saying that what goes on inside Planned Parenthood demands armed intervention, then it is not murder. If it demands armed intervention, then why aren’t you grabbing your guns and heading for the nearest PP?

Calling what goes on inside Planned Parenthood “murder” could possibly incite the crazies among us to this sort of behavior. If your neighbor decides not to have another child, and visits a Planned Parenthood to have an abortion, that is different from your neighbor coming to your home and shooting your child. The second situation is murder and deadly force is clearly called for. In the first, perhaps a personal conversation with your neighbor would be appropriate. The crazies out there are not capable of such discernment.

I don’t know why she thinks that being a Republican descendant of Jefferson Davis endows her with special insight into the Confederate flag and what it symbolizes. Anyone who watches her speech can see she was faking the whole thing:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0709/How-Jenny-Horne-s-plea-helped-bring-down-Confederate-flag-in-South-Carolina-video

“”A homosexuality gene, if it existed, would quickly die out”.

Seems like it, but it might be more complex than a single gene. There are bad things that haven’t died out—like juvenile diabetes. And there are lots of homosexual animals out there, too. Hard to explain unless there is some tendency in the DNA to occasionally spin off the homo individual.

“Moreover, Rivers obviously is unaware of the practice — initiated by the Clinton administration — of sending the proceeds from SSI payments by illegals to the Mexican government.”

So I guess this went on during the Bush administration as well—doesn’t surprise me.

“The Clintons have been selling out this country for over 20 years. Remember Ron Brown, remember the satellite fix that allowed the Chinese to precisely target our cities and it goes on and on with no negative impact on the Clintons”

What I don’t get, and has never been explained to me, is why, when the House voted to impeach Clinton, they only charged him with lying about having an affair, which was almost nothing compared to these other charges which could have been brought. Were they just doing a show trial intended to embarrass him but not remove him? Why would the Republicans do that? I don’t get it.

Who would have protected your right to bear arms when your city or state passed a law making them illegal, if not SCOTUS (McDonald v. City of Chicago 2010)?

It has its place. We all disagree sometimes, This is why it is important to elect a conservative president.

“Congress could fix this by simply passing a law stating that no issue on the constitutionality of any state or federal law may be heard by any court other than the Supreme Court and that the Supreme Court cannot overturn any state or federal statute on constitutional grounds unless 7 of the 9 justices concur.”

That would have prevented the Supreme Court from striking down a local law prohibiting the ownership of handguns (5-4) and the Citizens United case (also a 5-4 decision).

I am of two minds about the gay marriage decision. I don’t like the Supreme Court effectively creating this “right.” But I take some satisfaction when I think about what these gay guys have gotten themselves into. They’re going to learn what it is like to work 80 hours a week to start a business and buy a house only to find after ten years of nonstop work, a court stops in and gives half of your business to your worthless stay at home “spouse” and the house as well. Marriage, hey, you guys are welcome to it.

Don’t get me wrong, marriage can be a great thing. But the government should stay out of it. Now the gays have welcomed the government into it. I think a good many of them will rue the day.

“I go to the VA so it doesn’t affect me one way or the other.”

Yes, you are in a socialistic, single payer system. Surprisingly to me, I have a couple of friends covered by VA and they seem to like it. What do you think?

Should have thought of that one, at least.

Another crazy white guy. Why is it almost always a white buy? I can’t even remember the last time a black guy was the perp in one of these mass murders.

” More trollish behavior..” = anyone questioning anything you say.

Why do you say I was acting like a troll by asking you where your evidence came from? I was curious. Is that a crime? As to the NCVS data, sounds like credible evidence, thanks, though it is based on surveys by the US Census bureau, using a similar methodology that they use to produce the monthly unemployment rates, so I can’t say that NCVS is an unimpeachable source.

I still don’t understand why you say that it is very rare for blacks to be victims of white violence when your own statistics say that it happens more than 60,000 times a year.

“Are you kidding? FBI hate crime states are a fraud. What country do yo live in?”

I live in a country that asks that you have evidence to support your beliefs. What evidence do you have that FBI crime statistics are a fraud? Do you have any evidence at all to support your belief that white-on-black crimes are very rare as compared to black-on-white crime? If you do, would you please post it?

I’m sorry, but I don’t know you well enough to recognize you as authoritative on this matter.

Usually when there is a terrible crime like this, people go to their churches to escape the hatred and the evil and to pray to God that the evil will cease. And yet, since it took place in a church, in Bible study class, where do you look for the Lord’s blessing?

“No, most interracial crimes in this country are blacks harming whites. If this is the opposite, it is very rare.”

Do you have any basis for saying this, or are you just inventing things? Here is what the FBI had to say:

“In 2010, the races of the 6,008 known hate crime offenders were as follows:

58.6 percent were white.
18.4 percent were black.”

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-offenders