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  • Why I Attend the Traditional Latin Mass

    07/30/2005 9:06:18 AM PDT · 1 of 89
  • Our New Worship Space (Check out these renovations!)

    07/29/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT · 26 of 27
    littlepaddle to Desdemona

    All of truly good catholic things too!

    First Eucharist
    At Church of the Resurrection, preparation for First Eucharist traditionally takes place in grade two.
    Reconciliation is usually celebrated in the sixth grade at a parish communal reconciliation service.
    And all the good important catholic things: Centering Prayer, Labyrinth, Taizé Prayer

  • Pope Laments 'Dying' Churches in West

    07/29/2005 7:20:20 AM PDT · 22 of 26
    littlepaddle to Hugin

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that African and Asian priests are allowed to marry and have families, and European and American priests aren't?
    Roman catholic priests no matter where cannot marry.
    Eastern Rite (as opposed to the orthodox) can marry before ordination, not after and all bishops are not married.

  • religion

    03/30/2005 6:36:07 AM PST · 1 of 6
  • Are you being targeted for euthanasia?

    03/24/2005 4:02:40 AM PST · 1 of 28

    02/14/2005 10:52:22 AM PST · 18 of 38
    littlepaddle to Robert Drobot

    Sr.Lucia died today,the 13th. On the same date,the 13th. Our Lady
    first appeared to her. On this 13th day, Our Lady came and took
    Sr. Lucia home. With her celestial court to escort Sr. Lucia past
    the doors of purgatory, where as a young child, the Blessed Mother
    showed her the horrors there, and where today the souls of popes,
    bishops, and priests are being purified, for among other things,
    their doubting this chosen child of Our Lady. Upwards to the throne
    of Christ the King they take her. Her King and Savior then placed on
    her head a crown of golden roses that was made from all of the roses
    sent to His mother from each of Sr.Lucia's rosaries during her long
    hard life here on earth. Her cousins run to great her and never more
    will she need permission from Ratzinger to speak to anyone. God has
    Blessed you Sr. Lucia please pray for us here on earth.
    Every saint needs a miracle perhaps her miracle will be that we get a
    catholic pope and the consecration will be done as the Blessed Mother

  • Beware! Watchwords of Modernists

    08/19/2004 5:09:54 AM PDT · 163 of 265
    littlepaddle to Mershon
    OK, we seen just how far The Mass has gone in 40 short years... Imagine where the Novus Ordo will be 40 years FROM NOW!!! Could THIS be the Novus Ordo Mass to come in the future?

    Novus Ordo Missae
    2044 C.E.

    Entrance Song:

    [An entrance song is sung or an antiphon is recited as the priest and the ministers enter the church and process to the altar; after reverencing the altar, they go to their chairs. Ancient songs such as or "You Are The Wind Beneath My Wings" are appropriate]


    Presider: In the name of the Creator, and of the Redeemer, and of the Paraclete. [All together make the sign of the cross. (for those of you that remember how)]

    All: Amen.

    Option A:

    Presider: May the Holy Groove be placed on y'all.

    All: You too, dude

    Option B:

    Presider: Right on, right on, right on.

    All: Right on

    Option C:

    Presider: Hi there

    or Bishop: (sounding very official) Hi there

    All: Back at 'chya

    [The presider or another minister may then briefly introduce the Mass of the day, saying something about the readings, the feast, and/or the special occasion being celebrated, such as Kwanzaa, Shiva's Birthday, Earth Day, The Feast of St. John Calvin, Gay Pride Day, etc.]

    Rite of Blessing and Sprinkling Holy Water:

    Presider: Groovy People, this water will be used to remind us of our childhood Coming-Out Party/Baptism. Let us ask the Divinity of Undetermined Gender to bless it, and to keep us faithful to the Spirit It has given us. [or similar words of insipidness]

    Option A:

    Presider: God our Divinity of Undetermined Gender, your gift of water brings life and freshness to the earth we worship.

    All: Whoa, that's deep

    Option B:

    Presider: Some of us can really use a shower.

    All: Darn tootin', Fig Newton.

    Option C (during the Easter Season):

    Presider: It's raining, it's pouring, the old man is snoring

    All: What he say?

    [After blessing the water, the presider moves through the communal worship space sprinkling all of the people while an antiphon or other song is sung, such as "Raindrops Are Fallin' On My Head", or "Rainy Days And Mondays Always Get Me Down". When the sprinkling and the song is finished, the priest concludes this rite as follows:]

    Presider: May our Big Buddy in the Sky cleanse us of our sins, if any actually exist or not... that's irrelevant, and through the symbolic eucharist we celebrate make us worthy to sit with equality at the table in the heavenly kingdom.

    All: See me, feel me, touch me.

    [This rite is commonly celebrated during the Easter Season, but may also be used at other times. When it is used, the Penitential Rite is omitted, and the Mass continues with the Gloria (on most Sundays and solemnities) or with the Opening Prayer (during Advent and Lent, and on weekdays). Or in keeping with the 2007 ruling of the Council Of American Catholic Bishops, you can simply make it up as you go along]

    or Penitential Rite:

    Presider: As we prepare to celebrate the un-ending super cool tolerance of Jesus, let us acknowledge the failures of others and ask the Lord to pardon them.

    [or similar words of introduction, followed by a period of silent reflection, or catching a quick 40 winks.]

    All: I confess to no one. I feel way down deep inside that I am a good person. And that's all that counts

    Presider: May the Divinity of Undetermined Gender feel where you are coming from


    [The following acclamations are sung or recited, either in English, Greek, Swahili, Tierra Del Fuegan, Urdu, Sanskrit, Braille, Indian Smoke Signals, Charades, whatever. This acclamation is to the Patron of GLBTIBN (gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered, incestuous, bestial and necropheliac) Catholics. Saint Christie Butchhaircut and Saint Kerry Sugarbritches. May all sexual minorities be allowed to marry]

    Presider: Kerry Get A Liscense.

    All: Kerry Get A Liscense

    Presider: Christie Get a Liscense.

    All: Christie Get A Liscense

    Presider: Kerry Get A Liscense

    All: Kerry Get A Liscense

    Gloria, G-L-O-R-I-A, Gloria:

    [This ancient hymn of praise is used on all Sundays outside of Advent and Lent, it was also a really cool Classic Rock song sung by Van Morrison.]

    All: Like to tell you ’bout my baby, you know she comes around,

    Just ’bout five feet four a-from her head to the ground.

    You know she comes around here just about midnight, She make me feel so good, lord, she make me feel all right.

    And her name is g-l-o-r-i-a,

    G-l-o-r-i-a gloria

    G-l-o-r-i-a gloria

    I’m gonna shout it all night gloria

    I’m gonna shout it every day, gloria

    Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

    She comes around here just about midnight, ha

    She make me feel so good, lord, I wanna say she

    make me feel all right.

    Comes a-walkin’ down my street, then she comes up to my house,

    She knock upon my door and then she comes to my room,

    Yeah an’ she make me feel all right,

    G-l-o-r-i-a gloria

    G-l-o-r-i-a gloria

    I’m gonna shout it all night gloria

    I’m gonna shout it every day gloria

    Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,

    Looks so good gloria

    All right, feel so good gloria

    All right, yeah now.

    Presider: Rock on


    First Reading:

    Lector/Presider-Lite: A reading from the Book (or Letter, or Acts) of...

    [Different readings are prescribed for each day; after the lector ends, the people respond:]

    Lector/Presider-Lite: The Word of the Lord.

    All: KEWL!

    Responsorial Psalm:

    [The choir and/or cantor sing or recite the psalm; the people join in the repeated response unless it's the fourth sunday after Groundhog day and the moon is full and there was just a big ol' screech owl outside my winder last night.]

    Second Reading:

    [A second reading is prescribed for all Sundays and major feasts, but not for most weekdays or minor feasts. The lector's introduction and conclusion and the people's response are the same as in the First Reading. But precious little makes a difference, because no one is reading this anyways]

    Alleluia or "Woo-Hoo" Acclamation:
    Choir or Cantor: WOO-HOO!!

    All repeat: WOO-HOO!!

    [The "WOO-HOO!!" may be repeated two or more times, especially during the Easter Season. If it is not sung, it should be omitted. But please don't sing. Catholics can't sing. Some things never change]


    Before the Gospel Proclamation:

    Presider: I'M OK!!

    All: YOU'RE OK!!

    Presider: A reading from the Holy Gospel according to... [Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Bubba, Laqueesha, Bob, Luther or Frank Zappa]

    All: Huh?...

    After the Gospel
    Presider: The Gospel of the Lord.

    All: No kidding? Thanks for pointing out the obvious

    Homily/Things you WANT To Hear... Not What You NEED To Hear:

    [The bishop, priest, or deacon, minister of hospitality, parish janitor, wino found at the last minute vomiting on the streetcorner... whoever, then speaks to the people, usually focusing on that day's scriptures and/or on the feast or special occasion being celebrated at that Mass; but the homily may also be based on any liturgical text from the Mass or they can just ramble aimlessly]

    Profession of Faith:

    [On Sundays and solemnities, the Nicene Creed is normally recited by everyone after the homily. In celebrations of Masses with children, Dr Seuss may be used instead.]


    I believe myself. I believe in the god within. I also believe in the sub-god known as The Creator... the Patron of Mother Earth.

    I believe in Jesus Christ, the prophet who walked around the Sea of Galilee chanting "Ohmmm". What a cool dude He was indeed.

    I believe in the Holy Spirit. That sub-god is always portrayed as a dove, and doves are cool.

    I believe that Jesus has a righteous mom. I'll bet She let Him party, drink, smoke, never gave Him grief, none of that stuff. I wish my mom was like that.

    I realize that Jesus went through some UNCOOL stuff that I don't want to think about 'cuz I get bummed out when I think about it.

    I believe that Jesus is Cosmic. He's everywhere physically as well as spiritually.

    Father Sun, Mother Earth, Holy Me, Holy Rock, Holy Tree.


    Outlawed by order of the 3d Vatican Council due to it's connection with the superstitious Rosary.

    General Intercessions / Prayer of the Faithful:

    [petition the god in each of us for really neat stuff, prizes and other valuable merchandise]

    Lector/Presider-lite: let us pray to Ourselves.

    All: Damn Straight.

    [or a similar response, repeated after each petition]


    Presentation of the Gifts / Preparation of the Altar:

    Presider: Big Buddy In The Sky. Much akin to the really neat sacrifice of Cain, we offer fruits and veggies

    All: Ranch or Blue Cheese?.

    Presider: Big Buddy In The Sky. We have this Tequila to offer. Salt and lemon are required

    All: Lick it, slam it, bite it.

    Presider: Pray, my siblings, that our mild inconvenience may be acceptable to The Divinity of Undetermined Gender.

    All: Whatever... is it time to go yet?

    Prayer over the Gifts:

    [The Presider sings or says this prayer, which is different for each Mass. At the end, the people respond:]

    All: You better not shout, you better not pout, you better not cry, I'm tellin' you why.

    Eucharistic Prayer:

    [The Presider may choose from among four different Eucharistic Prayers, all are equally generic. Why bother, just make your life simple and mentally go through your "to do" list right now ]

    Preface Dialogue:

    Presider: The Lord be with you.

    All: ZZZZZ....

    Presider: Lift up your hearts.

    All: I wasn't sleeping.

    Presider: Let us give thanks to the Our Big Buddy In The Sky

    All: Stop elbowing me.


    All: Holy, holy, holy Lord, God of power and might,

    Heajsd wpon lewefh cweh ...... I wonder if I shift quicker into third if that will help my gas milage... and earth are full of your glory.

    Hosanna in tpow dfer ...Was Presider saying something?...the highest.

    Blessed is he who clikjuew yfuql.... I need to stop daydreaming and start paying attention.... comes in the name of the Lord.

    Hosanna in the highest.

    Memorial Acclamation:

    Presider: Let us proclaim the understand the Mind Of God:

    All: When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we are tiding over until we can hit the Grand Slam breakfast at Denny's.

    Great Amen:

    Presider: Stop daydreaming and pay attention

    All: Amen!

    [may be sung more than once depending on how many of the faith community was falling asleep]


    Lord's Prayer:

    Presider: Jesus suggested to us to call upon The Deity of Undetermined Gender, and so we have the time to say:

    All: Our Divine Parental Unit, who's art is in museums, hollow be thy flute; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven provided it doesn't conflict with my own personal opinion.

    Give us this day our daily bread;

    and forgive trespass against me, for they are many.

    I can do no wrong;

    and lead us not into non-existant temptation because satan doesn't really exist, but deliver us from believing the myth of the devil.

    Presider: Deliver us, Warm and Fuzzy Pal In The Sky, from every un-cool feeling, make me feel good about myself above all things. Be a buddy, OK? I'm really looking forward to meeting Jesus. I know I will. All I have to do is believe and have losts of LUV in my heart.

    All: For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are mine, now and forever.

    Sign of Peace:

    Presider: Lord Jesus Christ, can I get a hug?

    All: Amen.

    Deaconesse or Deacon or Presider: Let us offer each other a sign of peace. AM I THE ONLY ONE FEELING A GROUP HUG COMING ON??!!

    [According to local custon, a sign of peace is given. That can range from barely acknowledging the existance of the human being three inches away from you, to almost sexual intercourse]

    Presider: This is the symbolic Lamb of God who takes away the non-existant sins of the world. Happy are those who are called to his supper. RSVP

    All: Lord, Don't judge me. I know what's best.

    Eucharistic Monster: (Offering the Host) Everythings good when it sits on a Ritz

    Communicant: Goooood Cracker!

    Eucharistic Monster: (Offering The Cup) Budweiser, it's the King Of Beers.

    Communicant: It's Miller Time.

    Communion Song:

    [During the reception of Communion, an appropriate song is sung, such as "Tonight I'm Gonna Party Like It's 1999", or "I'm Gonna Put On My, My, My, Boogie Shoes (And Boogie Wid You).]



    Presider: Dominic Go Frisk 'Em

    All: Fugeddahboudit.


    Deaconesse or Deacon or Presider: Bow your heads and and close your eyes and think happy thoughts.

    [Dominic quickly and quietly frisks the crowd]

    Presider: May almighty Divinity of Undetermined Gender bless you, the Creator, and the Redeemer, and the Paraclete.

    Deaconesse or Deacon or Presider: OK, you can leave now. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

    All: Thanks be to God! [barely audible] 'Bout time.

    Recessional and Closing Song:

    [Although it is traditional in many countries and many parishes to sing a final song or to have some instrumental music played as the priest and ministers process out of the church, this is not prescribed in the Order of Mass. But ancient hymns such as "Leavin' On A Jet Plane", "Rockin' Down The Highway" or "Up, Up And Away (In My Beautiful Balloon) ]

  • Beware! Watchwords of Modernists

    08/19/2004 4:51:32 AM PDT · 162 of 265
    littlepaddle to sinkspur

    Quotes of Mother Teresa
    "There is only one God and He is God to all; therefore it is important that everyone is seen as equal before God. I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic. We believe our work should be our example to people. We have among us 475 souls - 30 families are Catholics and the rest are all Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs—all different religions. But they all come to our prayers."
    The purpose of the church is not to make hindus better hindus etc. The purpose of the church is the conversion of souls to the one true church. So I guess you could say she was a closet modernist.

  • Beware! Watchwords of Modernists

    08/19/2004 4:44:14 AM PDT · 161 of 265
    littlepaddle to sinkspur
    Social justice in catholic terms always included the Social Kingship of Christ. There can be no true social justice when you remove Him from the equation. This is false social justice that you see in our government does just that, it removes God from the equation and focuses solely on the rights of man. This type of thinking is masonic.A quick read of Rerum Novarium shows that the Pope is referring to the type of social justice that would coincide with the Social Kingship of Christ.
    Catholics should and have also wanted social justice but only in the framework of the Social Kingship of Christ.
    This unfortunately has not been taught since vat2.
  • Beware! Watchwords of Modernists

    08/19/2004 4:33:03 AM PDT · 159 of 265
    littlepaddle to sinkspur


  • The Greatest Conspiracy

    08/14/2004 3:37:15 AM PDT · 1 of 7
  • Vatican 2 in the dock

    08/14/2004 3:34:11 AM PDT · 1 of 35
  • Ratzinger says new springtime of the Church not about numbers

    08/12/2004 4:55:41 AM PDT · 175 of 175
    littlepaddle to Canticle_of_Deborah

    By the Numbers and by God's Book: Cardinal Ratzinger is Just Dead Wrong
    by Thomas A. Droleskey

    The spectacle of Pope John Paul II and Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger heaping praise upon the “great fruits” of the pontificate of Pope Paul VI and the Second Vatican Council calls to mind the efforts of the late Soviet dictator Leonid Brezhnev and his chief ideologist, the equally late Mikhail Suslov, to praise past Soviet leaders and to emphasize that the Bolshevik Revolution was charting the path successfully to the dawn of the New Socialist Man.

    Cardinal Ratzinger, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy, was quoted recently as saying that the “springtime of the Church” is a reality, but that it does not depend upon numbers. He has said on other occasions that we are experiencing a “qualitative” renewal engendered by the Second Vatican Council, the “fruits” of which were again praised by Pope John Paul II on the occasion of the twenty-sixth anniversary of the death of Pope Paul VI on the feast of the Transfiguration.

    Let us try to figure this out. We are in the springtime of the Church because octogenarian revolutionaries say that we are despite all empirical evidence to the contrary. In other words, revolutionaries responsible for laying waste Christ’s vineyard by fomenting an unprecedented revolt against her authentic patrimony can make positivist statements that must be accepted at face value as being true without any hint of criticism. My word, if a priest were to criticize such self-serving positivist statements he might find that his bishop would have canonical grounds to suspend him for disloyalty to the Pope and to the magnificent work done by the Second Vatican Council to “restore” and to “renew” the Church.

    Unfortunately for the Holy Father and for Cardinal Ratzinger, God has revealed to us that he does care very much about numbers.

    To wit, consider the following few passages from the New Testament alone:

    “After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is that of Tiberias. And a great multitude followed Him, because they saw the miracles which He did on them that were diseased.

    “Jesus therefore went up into a mountain, and there he sat with His disciples. Now the pasch, the festival day of the Jews, was near at hand. When Jesus therefore had lifted up His eyes, and seen that a very great multitude cometh to Him, He said to Philip: ‘Whence shall we buy bread that these may eat?’ And this He said to try him; for He himself knew what He would do.

    “Philip answered him: ‘Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one may take a little.’

    “One of His disciples, Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, saith to him: ‘There is a boy here that hath five barley loaves, and two fishes; but what are these among so many?’

    “Then Jesus said: ‘Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. The men therefore sat down, in number about five thousand.” (Jn. 6:1-10)

    Yes, a number: five thousand. God cares about numbers. The miracle of the feeding of the five thousand is in each of the four Gospels (Mt. 14:13-21; Mk. 6:41-44; Lk. 9:12-16).

    Saint John records the exact number of fish, a simile for souls, as Our Lord manifested Himself to the Eleven after His Resurrection:

    “Jesus saith to them: ‘Bring hither of the fishes which you have now caught.’ Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land, full of great fishes, one hundred and fifty-three. And although there were so many, the net was not broken.” (Jn. 21:10-11)

    Consider the account of the conversion of men on Pentecost Sunday following the first Papal address in the history of the Church:

    “But Peter said to them: ‘Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call.’

    “And with very many other words did he testify and exhort them, saying: ‘Save yourselves from this perverse generation.’

    “They therefore that received his word, were baptized; and there were added in that day about three thousand souls.” (Acts 2:38-41)

    Three thousand souls. God cares about numbers. Otherwise, you see, His book, the Bible, would not be full of numbers. The examples from the Old Testament are just too numerous to review in this brief reflection. God made the world in six days, resting on the seventh. Noah spent forty days and forty nights in the ark. The Hebrews were enslaved to the Egyptians for 440 years. The Jews spent forty years wandering in the desert. The thousands slain by Saul, the tens of thousands slain by David. And one of the books of the Pentateuch happens to be called The Book of Numbers. Yes, numbers are important to God.

    The tradition of the Church teaches us that God cares about numbers, which are indeed something of an indicator of the health of the Church Militant here on earth. Over 10,000 people who had gone over to the Albigensians came back to the Faith after Saint Dominic was given the Rosary by Our Lady. Saint Peter Claver baptized over 300,000 people in his lifetime. Saint Francis Xavier destroyed over 40,000 pagan idols (many of which have made their way into Papal events these days) baptized over 3,000,0000 people. That’s right, three million, And, quite importantly, over nine million indigenous peoples of the Americas were converted to the true Faith in a short space of time following Our Lady’s apparition to Saint Juan Diego at Guadalupe on December 9, 1531, almost person for the person the number of people lost to the Church in Europe as a result of the Protestant Revolt.

    Thus, Cardinal Ratzinger’s assertions about a “qualitative” renewal of the Church are now and have always been an exercise in spin doctoring that flies in the face of God’s Word and of the authentic patrimony of the Catholic Church. The wreckage caused by the Second Vatican Council and the Novus Ordo Missae is vast. The decline in the numbers of Catholic attending Mass, of those who believe in the articles contained in the Deposit of Faith, of the numbers of priests and consecrated religious has not occurred because the Church has been preaching forcefully unpopular truths and seeking to gain converts to the Faith. This decline in numbers has occurred precisely because the Church has abandoned her authentic patrimony, expressed her contempt for the Immemorial Mass of Tradition, and treated actual schismatics and heretics and pagans and infidels with great solicitude while those who have held to the Faith our fathers have been dealt heavy and severe blows.

    Those in ecclesiastical authority should not be concerned if the Church were abandoned by all but one person other than the Pope himself if all had abandoned her as a result of her fidelity to her tradition. Most of those who had followed Our Lord prior to the Eucharistic discourse left Him when He said that they would not have any life in them unless they ate of His Body and drank of His Blood. Turning to the Apostles, Our Lord asked:

    “ ‘Will you also go away?’

    “And Simon Peter answered Him: ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life. And we have believed and have known, that thou art the Christ, the Son of God.’” (Jn. 6:68-70)

    No, it would not matter if our numbers were few because of fidelity of all that is contained in the Deposit of Faith and in the Church’s tradition. Our numbers are few, though, because the Church herself has chased her sons and daughters away and refuses to convert those outside of her, an actual abandonment of the commission Our Lord gave to the Eleven before He ascended to the Father’s right hand in glory on Ascension Thursday.

    While Cardinal Ratzinger believes that the small numbers signified by the “springtime of the Church” will be able to effect change in the manner that Lenin’s minority of followers did in Russia, the analogy is false. Our numbers are small at present precisely because of the Vatican’s own revolutionary policies against the Church’s entire patrimony. Imagine what our numbers would look like if the Church had not abandoned her patrimony and forced a synthetic liturgy upon Latin Rite Catholics. The story of the Church and of the world would be quite different.

    Our Lord had something to say about those who refuse to bear fruit for the sake of the Kingdom:

    “He also spoke this parable: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it, and found none. And he said to the dresser of the vineyard: “Behold, for these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and I find none. Cut it down therefore: why cumbereth it to the ground?” But he answer, said to him: “Lord, let it alone this year also, until I dig about it, and dung it. And if happily it bear fruit: but if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.”’” (Lk. 13:6-9)

    It is time for Vatican officials to recognize that the Second Vatican Council and its aftermath has borne nothing but rotten fruit for the Catholic Church and thus for souls. Our Lord wants everyone on the face of the earth to be a member of the Catholic Church so that they will have access to the supernatural helps He has entrusted to her for their sanctification and salvation. The loss of numbers in the wake of the Second Vatican Council is not an indication of the “springtime of the Church.” It is an indication of an apostasy that must be rooted out in the manner of the barren fig tree.

    Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us.

  • Pope Offers Communion to Pro-Choice Politician in Italy

    08/12/2004 4:35:26 AM PDT · 124 of 137
    littlepaddle to narses

    actions speak louder then words:
    In 1998, he gave communion, at a private Mass in the Vatican, to the late Rev. Sheila Brown, who had only shortly before been ordained an Anglican priestess and who, at that Mass, wore her "Roman" collar.
    In 1999, he gave communion to several Lutheran bishops who were his guests during a mass in the pope's private chapel in the Vatican. (London Tablet)
    Although I don't have the date he also gave communion to Tony Blair,whose wife is a pro-abort catholic.

  • Need Info on Bible Translation

    08/06/2004 6:46:59 PM PDT · 182 of 186
    littlepaddle to HarleyD

    It means exactly what it says. It says that the douay is the only bible declared to be free of doctrinal errors by a council. There are errors in other translations.
    The Douay predates the KJ.
    For the historically dysfunctional the catholic church was here long before there was a bible. The catholic church codified the bible in 397 at the council of Carthage. It was there it was decided on which 72 books would make up the bible(45 OT,27 NT)
    At the reformation the protstants took out 7 books(Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, and I, II Machabees) and parts of books (viz: Esther 10:4-16:24, and Daniel 3:24-90; 13:1-14:42) which are not found in the Jewish editions of the Old Testament
    These 7 books,however, were only removed by the Jews in 100 A.D. at the council of Jamnia.They removed them because too many converts were being made to christianity from them. So the protestant reformers based their selection of books on an anti-christian council.(Jews in other parts of the world eg Africa kept them).
    It was the catholic church that gave people the first bible in English.The Bible In English (before printing)

    Various parts of the Bible were translated into Saxon, the language of England at that time, by:

    c. 670 Caedmon, a monk
    c. 709 Aldhelm, Bishop of Sherborne
    c. 735 Venerable Bede, a monk of Jarrow
    c. 849-901 King Alfred
    c. 955-1020 Aelfric, Archbishop of Canterbury
    c. 1020-15thC. English, as we know it today, was developed during this time, and translations appeared in the language of the time. (prior to the reformation there were no protestants
    1454 A.D. THE FIRST PRINTED BIBLE: A Catholic named Gutenberg caused great excitement when in the fall of that year he exhibited sample pages at the Frankfurt trade fair. Gutenberg quickly sold out all of the 180 copies of his Latin Vulgate Bible even before the printing was finished.
    THIRTEENTH CENTURY, THE FIRST DIVISION OF CHAPTERS: It was the British Catholic Arch-Bishop of Canterbury, St. Stephen Langton (died 1228), was first to tabulate scripture into Chapters, and we follow his arrangement to this day: some 1,163 chapters in the Old Testament, and only 260 in the New Testament."
    1551 A.D. THE FIRST DIVISION OF VERSES: The first division of the Bible into its present verses is found for the first time in an edition of the Greek New Testament published in Paris by the Catholic Robert Stephens
    1555 A.D. THE FIRST PRINTED COMPLETE BIBLE WITH CHAPTERS AND VERSES: The first division of the Bible into its present chapters and verses is found for the first time in an edition of the Vulgate published in Paris by the Catholic Robert Stephens
    Douay..translated from the Vulgate by St. Jerome in 1609
    KJ was translated 1611

  • Need Info on Bible Translation

    08/06/2004 4:29:38 AM PDT · 104 of 186
    littlepaddle to allen 47

    Sorry allen but the catholic church has survived for 2000 years in spite of her people. She is the only 1 true church established by Jesus, she is the only church that goes back to Jesus and the apostles, all others are johnny come lately man made religions. Your KJ bible was ordered put together by a sodomite.

  • Need Info on Bible Translation

    08/06/2004 4:25:52 AM PDT · 103 of 186
    littlepaddle to allen 47

    The KJ is a bad translation. Even in the first edition the translators had a note saying they did not know all the latin and greek so they guessed at the words. The KJ also adds and takes away some words. The douay is more accurate and pre-dates the KJ. Most of the KJ,that is accurate, was plegerized from the Douay. The Douay is the only bible declared by a council to be free from doctrianal error.
    The Douay is complete with all of the books that are suppossed to be in the bible.
    This site will show you all the errors in the KJ
    And by the way King James was a liar,compromiser,murder, and sodomite.

  • problems with the NAB

    07/27/2004 4:21:30 AM PDT · 1 of 166
  • The Consecration Has Been Done?

    05/09/2004 8:28:59 PM PDT · 25 of 50
    littlepaddle to gbcdoj
    that is not the only doctrine they deny they also deny purgatory and that the Blesses Mother was sinless
  • Traditionally Hypocritical

    05/05/2004 5:59:02 AM PDT · 33 of 69
    littlepaddle to Land of the Irish
    Let is now take a look at the "holy fathers" of this new theology. The first step they take in their liberation from traditional Catholic theology and dogma is by abandoning scholastic philosophy. It is thus hardly surprising to hear Urs von Balthasar stating, "Hell exists, but is empty!" Balthasar bases himself upon the philosopher Maurice Blondel - who occupies a small place in the history of philosophy, but a very important place in the history of this modernist new theology of the Church

    Maurice Blondel

    Throughout his life (1861-1949), the Frenchman, Maurice Blondel, was a center of controversy, especially as one couldn't pin him down to his errors - since, like all modernists, he would wriggle and slither out of such attempt. This attitude was stigmatized by an adversary of Blondel's, Fr. Tonquedec O.P., in the Dictionnaire Apologetique de la Foi Catholique:

    "Despite efforts to base my arguments with Blondel on documentary evidence, I soon realized that the public did not have access to his works. The texts I quoted were from books that were no longer available on the library shelves; nor the brochures that contained his most important articles. Furthermore, his doctrines, in being the continual object of controversy, were continually re-explained, modified, etc. The result being that his doctrine cannot be nailed down or grasped, since it changes with time and differing circumstances. Very few persons, even amongst those who study religious philosophy, are capable of grasping the meaning of the statements and writings of Blondel and his friends."

    Who were Blondel's friends? The answer is Fr. Lubac and his gang: Bouillard, Fessard, von Balthasar, Auguste Valensin, etc. In other words, the founding fathers of the new theology, condemned by Pope Pius XII in Humani Generis. This new theology was, in the words of Fr. Henrici SJ., elevated to the position of the "official theology of Vatican II."

    Blondel's followers, Lubac and his gang had their reasons for wanting to leave Blondel's philosophy enveloped in a vague fog. This would give birth to a new, vague, "Christian" philosophy. Blondel presented his philosophy as an apologetical method of winning over modern man. He says that classical proofs fail to penetrate the minds of modern men, which are penetrated by Kantian positivism. If you want to save souls, then you must go to where they are and if they have fallen into subjectivism, then it if through subjectivism that they must be sought.

    This subjectivist philosophy typical of Protestantism and Modernism, so ruinous to Catholic dogma, was already condemned by Pope Pius X in his encyclical Pascendi. For Blondel, Catholic Truth rests more on the level of subjectivity than objectivity. Truth is more related to the will and experience, rather than intelligence. Hence truth is what we want and feel it to be. Faith does not pass from the mind to the heart, but from the heart to the mind! This leads us into the field of scepticism and agnosticism, which is the foundation of modernism. With this elevation of the will and feelings, man believes what he wants to believe, relying on his feelings and impressions, devoid of all objectivity. This explains the current exaltation and preoccupation with personal religious experiences such as the charismatics, pietists, pseudo-mystics, etc. The majority of the Church is tainted with this subjectivism.

    Blondel does not bother with rational arguments to prove the existence of God and credibility of the Christian religion. He prefers to give the unbeliever an "effective experience " of Catholicism, to make the unbeliever who has no faith "to act as though he had the faith." In other words, to "experience" God - which is exactly what Pope St. Pius X condemned as modernism, in Pascendi.

    Blondel also falls into Immanentism (the essence of modernism) when he insists that "there is nothing that goes into man that does not come from man and that does not correspond in some way with his need for personal growth and expansion." This is the very basis for modernism, wherein the human mind is the central reality around which everything else revolves. For in modernism, the religious soul's beliefs and reasons for belief come from its own experiences and feelings - it will not accept objective arguments that are beyond its own realm of experience. If this attitude is followed to its logical conclusions, then such a soul will inevitably deny all external Divine Revelation and the divinity of Jesus Christ Himself.

    In effect, what Blondel has done, is to go and seek-out "modern-man" in his place of habitat - the sickbed of subjectivity and skepticism. Yet, rather than helping him leave this sickbed of grave errors, he lets him wallow in those self-same errors. Blondel's new "Christian philosophy” and its offspring, the "new theology of the Church" of his followers, will replace the perennial philosophy of the Church - an objective philosophy, based on reality, carefully formed and perfected throughout the course of many centuries, by the greatest philosophical minds the world has ever seen, a philosophy that reached its summit in what we now call Thomistic Philosophy.

    Pope Pius XII warned us of these new theologians in his encyclical Humani Generis, and stressed the importance of Thomistic philosophy as an aid against deviation in Catholic dogma. In his book The Intelligence In Danger of Death, Marcel de Corte, one of the most lucid thinkers of his time, echoes this same view on the importance of Thomistic philosophy:

    "It is linked to Greek philosophy, which is, itself, a philosophy based upon common sense, reality and a human intelligence faithful to its purpose (i.e. to know objective truth). Whenever philosophy wanders from this, it suffers the consequences! Vatican II threw out this realist philosophy which the Church had always guarded...this 2,000 year-old solidarity between supernatural reality of the Faith and the natural reality of man's mind...a philosophy which was the axis and pivot of the Church, who is the custodian of Faith, Intelligence and Morals. All this has been swept away by the tempest of all tempests - the subjectivity of man."

    Blondel had his critics and supporters. Amongst the former were the Catholic theologians Garrigou-Lagrange, Labourdette and De Tonquedec. One of Blondel's public defenders was Fr. Auguste Valensin SJ., who would present "doctored" quotes of Blondel when speaking in his defense. Thus opportunely eliminating anything that might serve to incriminate Blondel, before a public that was largely unaware of the true content of his doctrine. His writings were not freely available, and so people had to accept these "misquoted quotes" as being true.

    For example, Valensin takes Blondel's quote of "there is nothing that goes into man that does not come from him and that does not correspond in some way for personal growth and expansion" and twists it into "there is nothing that goes into man that does not correspond to his personal growth and expansion." The opportune removal of "…that does not come from him…" is a move clearly designed to protect Blondel from the accusation of lmmanentism and Modernism.

    However, good and sound theologians, such as Garrigou-Lagrange, Labourdette and De Tonquedec, spotted Blondel's errors and raised the alarm. They refuted this "new Christian philosophy" and pointed out its ruinous consequences for Catholic dogma and its incurable opposition to the Magisterium of the Church. Today, "those who think they've won" try to reduce all this to a mere personal feud between several theologians and deny it as being of any importance for the Church. Yet this is far from being the case. The enlightening refutations of Blondel's philosophy, by the above-mentioned theologians, prove the contrary and the present crisis in the Church shows how right those "clairvoyant" theologians were!

    In 1946, the celebrated Dominican theologian, Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange publicly refuted Blondel's errors and privately wrote to him asking him to "retract his (false) definition of truth before dying - if he didn't want to spend too long in Purgatory." Publicly, Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange had said: "It is not without a serious responsibility that he (Blondel) has called the Church's traditional definition of truth, which has been accepted for centuries, a figment of the imagination. Furthermore, by substituting this true notion of truth with an erroneous notion of truth, will inevitably bring error to anything that is built upon that false notion."

    One of these erroneous fruits that grew out the capital error of Blondel is what the present-day Church calls "the Living Tradition." This erroneous notion of Tradition ignores the Church's logical and indispensable link that must exist between what the Church teaches now and what the Church has always believed and taught. This is because, based on Blondel's false notion of truth, progress in dogma and understanding of truth is in a continual state of evolution or development.

    Consequently, due to this continual development, there can be no fixed, definite, unchangeable truths.

    Already in 1924, Fr. De Tonquedec had pointed out a remarkable resemblance between Blondel's ideas and the ideas condemned by Pope St. Pius X in the encyclical Pascendi. Tonquedec says that Blondel managed to wriggle out of a personal anathema by his characteristic vague expressions, hesitations and contradictions. A seemingly heretical statement would be contradicted a page or so further on.

    Was Blondel in good faith? Fr. Tonquedec thought not, with good reason. For Blondel would often deform the teaching of St. Thomas Aquinas and twist it round to mean the opposite. Added to this we have his categorical denials of ever having been opposed to orthodox Catholic thought. The typical modernist plea of "You don't understand me!" with repeated attempts at explaining himself to his critics or those who refuted his erroneous doctrine. In fact, his whole life was one long attempt at giving his ideas an orthodox sense or meaning. This continual wriggling and self-justification under the microscope has produced a host of differing opinions of Blondel. Some believed that he was sincere in his explanations, yet the wiser and better-informed critics were not fooled at all!

    The ecclesiastical journal L'ami du Clerge (March 4,1937,p.137) wrote that the later works of Blondel were nothing else but a reflection of his earlier erroneous ideas - going on to say that "he has not changed an iota of his doctrine."

    Fr. Tonquedec was of the same opinion, who also said of Blondel's later works: "Unfortunately, I find it impossible to accept Blondel's present interpretation of his works…which defends the orthodoxy of his writings.... Nobody who has read his entire works can accept that.... This philosophy is very new, very bold, very exclusive and on the whole erroneous." (Dictionnaire Apologetique)

    Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange comes to the same conclusion in his article "Where is the New Theology going to?" With regard to Blondel's new notion of truth, Fr. Lagrange asks: "Have Blondel's latest works corrected this false notion of truth? We have to say that they have not!"


    These tenacious critics of Blondel were not wrong! Today, the "new theologians" confirm their fears. We quote from the Central Archives of Maurice Blondel: “After his two works entitled ‘Action' (1893) and Letter' (1896), Blondel was often accused of being a 'modernist' by persons who misunderstood everything. In the face of these detractors, Blondel too often gave a too weak and minimal interpretation of his works."

    On December 20, 1931, in a letter to De Lubac, Blondel asked him if he thought that some of his (Blondel's) theses "went over the top." In his letter of April 3, 1932, De Lubac replies to the contrary. He chides Blondel for being too timid in the face of the criticism and restraint that came from other theologians. De Lubac asserts that all this impedes the free development of a spontaneous Catholic mind. He goes on to say: "I admire the painstaking care by which you criticize yourself and I am saddened by the thought that this might delay future important works, that we await with such impatience." (Henri De Lubac, Memoire autour de mesoeuvres, p.21).Bewitched by the magic flute of his "friend," Blondel takes courage and by return of post (April 5, 1932) he confesses that: "It's now over 40 years since I started tackling these problems, at which time I was not sufficiently armed. At that time, Thomistic philosophy was reigning intransigently. Had I said then what you want me to say now, then I would certainly have been too reckless and would have jeopardized the cause we defend - for I would have incurred many inevitable censures. It was necessary to take my time, in order to let my thought mature and in order to tame the minds that rebelled against it. The delays that sadden you are, in view of this double aspect, excusable... It is necessary to embrace traditional ways and views, so that they may be used as a point of departure or a springboard for a 'renewal'... Therefore, I am not totally to blame for the prevarication and timidity that you so deplore in this child of a 'new generation' and master of a theology that I have not yet managed to possess!"

    Thus we see Blondel, using the usual modernist ploy, of deliberately hiding his true thoughts so as to officially remain with the bosom of the Church and to attempt a "renewal" from within. In this correspondence between Blondel and De Lubac, we see exposed all the secret maneuvers of modernism - which seek to avoid exposure and censure. It was to his own misfortune that Blondel ran into De Lubac and his gang. For the latter saw in Blondel's new "Christian Philosophy" the foundations for their "New Catholic Theology." And in Rome, they could count on the sympathy of the Vice-Secretary of State, a certain Msgr. Montini - the future Pope Paul VI. We'll speak of that later!

    Translated from Courrier de Rome April 1993

    A fascinating series of articles is appearing in the periodical si si no no. Fascinating, because they take us down into the engine-room of the apostasy devastating the Church.

    Engine-room of apostasy? Just as in the great ocean-going liners, at the beginning of this century, there could be thousands of people on board and action going all over the ship, but the real action, driving the ship over the ocean, went on in the engine-rooms deep below the decks of the ship, populated by relatively few man. So in the ship of the Catholic Church, millions of Catholics, in all parts of the ship are now being shaken to pieces by something which started with a handful of men a long way below the decks, out of public view.

    The si si no no articles present six architects of the slippery heresy neo-modernism…The first of the six is a French philosopher, living from 1861 to 1949, whose name will be known to very few readers - yet without whom, there would have been no Vatican II - Maurice Blondel.

    How can philosophy be so important, when everybody with any good sense knows it is all nonsense? Answer, philosophy is the mechanics of the human mind, grasping natural reality…Now over the last several hundred years, modern man has been more and more turning his back on reality - because it is governed by God, because it comes from God. Modern man prefers the fantasy of which he himself is creator and master. That is why modern philosophy expresses, not a grasp of reality, but a hundred different ways of refusing reality. This is why philosophy has justly got itself a bad name.

    Blondel starts from the desire “to win over modern man” who is unimpressed by a philosophy of submission to reality. Blondel’s next step is to argue that Faith comes from “experience” inside, which is modernism - the Faith is what I feel. St. Paul says the Faith comes from outside [of ourselves], “from hearing.” Hence the third step, the supernatural is a need or demand of human nature, because “nothing can enter a man, which does not come out of him and correspond in some way to a need he has of expansion.” His naturalism subverts everything supernatural and the whole order of grace transcending nature is pulled down within nature!

    Finally, si si no no quotes Blondel changing the very notion of truth…Instead of the classical definition of “the matching of mind and reality,” Blondel’s definition is “the real matching of mind and life.”…Truth evolves…with nothing ever determined or fixed.

    Blondel knew exactly what he was doing. He was deliberately deceiving the Church authorities as to his real thinking, in order to be able to continue working from within the Church to reform it. Some “reformer”! Some “reform”! Surely Blondel himself sincerely believed in his work of rediscovering “authentic Christianity”? Yes, and the whole modern world lines up to congratulate him on his planting of the mines to blow sky-high the antiquated Church. But did his conscience congratulate him, or did it rebuke him? Fr De Lubac the priest, assured Blondel the layman, that his thinking was spontaneously Catholic enough to need no timid cover-up. Ah, the responsibility of a priest!

    Bishop Richard Williamson


    A movement within the ranks of Protestantism originating in the reaction against the fruitless Protestant orthodoxy of the seventeenth century. It aimed at the revival of devotion and practical Christianity, including private assemblies in people’s houses for pious reading and mutual edification, with an emphasis on the universal priesthood of the people. A basic idea of pietism is the importance of interior religious experience in the form of feelings and emotions.


    The quality of any action, which begins and ends within itself. It denies anything transcendent in the supernatural which according to this theory, is only a conception springing from an irresistible need of the soul, or “the ceaseless palpitation of the soul panting for the infinite, product of our interior evolution”; it is of immanent origin for “it is in the heart of mankind that the Divine resides. (Bouisson)”