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Posts by kosta50

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  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 8:38:47 PM PDT · 3,521 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom; betty boop

    I am certainly not going to publish my DD 214 to some anonymous poster any more than you’re going to publish your record of live birth or what cult you belong to.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 8:29:19 PM PDT · 3,520 of 4,044
    kosta50 to count-your-change
    Yeah, that’s a fencing term...

    No, you won't even disclose your personal denomination because you feel it's too personal. Metmom's request is a violation of privacy.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:44:14 PM PDT · 3,517 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom

    Prove that you are a mom.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:41:33 PM PDT · 3,515 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom

    Prove that you are a mom.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:40:36 PM PDT · 3,514 of 4,044
    kosta50 to boatbums; metmom; getoffmylawn
    Okay, spell-checked this time...

    Not only that, but they demand proof under their own qualifications for proof

    No, boatbums. real things are provable for all. I don't have to device my own special method to prove that you will sink if you try to walk on water. I will sink just the same. That's realty. Either God exists or doesn't. IF you say he doe,s then you should be able to prove it without special "qualifications of proof". reality doens't recognize believers and nonbelievers. It affects all equally.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:38:52 PM PDT · 3,513 of 4,044
    kosta50 to boatbums; metmom; getoffmylawn
    Not only that, but they demand proof under their own qualifications for proof

    No, boatbums. rea,l things are provable for all. I don;t have to device my own special emthod to prove that you will sink if you try to wlak on water. I will sink just the same. That's relaity. Either God exists or doesn't. IF you say he doe,s then you should be able to prove it whtout special "qulificaitons of proof". reality doens;t recongize believers and nonbeievers. It affects all equally.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:34:33 PM PDT · 3,512 of 4,044
    kosta50 to count-your-change; metmom
    Touche?

    You have yet to prove that you are a Christian.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:31:50 PM PDT · 3,511 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom; betty boop; getoffmylawn
    Prove it. Prove it with the same level of proof that you demand of believers to prove that God exists.

    Prove that you are mother. I don't' believe the likes of you could conceive.

    Of course, if we were to divulge our identities that would be no problem, so your request and my request are not doable here but they are provable. Betty Boop said God's existence is not provable.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 7:25:49 PM PDT · 3,509 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom; getoffmylawn
    You demand proof of God and God’s love from those who have experienced it and they can no more convey the experience of that love than you can convey to them your experience of someone else’s love or your love for someone else.

    U never demanded proof of God's love form God or from anyone. You are making things up (again).

    By the same standard you use, I can declare your love towards another as not real and not valid because you cannot convey to me the emotions you experience yourself

    God's existence is not an emotion. It's either a hypothesis or a fact. if it is a fact then it should be provable.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 6:29:15 PM PDT · 3,501 of 4,044
    kosta50 to AndrewC; getoffmylawn
    No the discussion is about "reborn"(born again/above) and the assertion that this is the antecendant to the conclusion that John is a liar. I stated that your deconstruction(disarticulation) attempt had no bearing since this was about a mistranslation into Greek

    Again, how could mistranslation occur when John was writing under "inspiration"? The fact is that John 3:3-4 cannot be retrotranslated into Aramaic and make any sense. Thus, either John mistranslated under "inspiration" or he made it up.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 5:29:16 PM PDT · 3,499 of 4,044
    kosta50 to metmom; betty boop; boatbums; LeGrande; James C. Bennett; getoffmylawn
    Some atheist can come along and mock the love of God and then tell me how much they love their children, but I can also come along and tell them that their love for their children is not real because they can’t validate it to me and make me feel it

    That is absolutely correct. That's why chest-thumping individuals who want the whole world to know how they love their spouses and children are no different than the Pharisees who made pained faces during fasts in order to come across as pious and observant. That's all hollow show.

    You prove how you feel towards someone by your deeds. Words are cheap.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 3:58:46 PM PDT · 3,494 of 4,044
    kosta50 to betty boop; boatbums; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; getoffmylawn
    How can kosta be a "'simply seeking the truth' agnostic" when he denies Truth in the first place

    I don't deny the possibility of it, altough I don't think it;s very likely, but that's just my opinion based on the fatc that there are notlaking donkeys and that dead people don't get up and go abaout their day as if nothing happened—after being dead for days!

    And yet kosta presents himself as singularly "all-knowing" — in his purported ignorance (i.e., lack of ability to prove anything)

    No, I just admit that I don't know something, which is more than some people can do. They must know, or at least pretend to know THE Truth, but they can't prove it!

    Now, it seems to me that claiming ignorance and not being able to prove something is more logical than claiming to KNOW something and not being able to prove it.

    I'm sorry; but such a method makes no sense to me whatsoever

    I know, what make sense to you, apparently, is to imagine something and then proceed to "prove" that it exists by means of "vertical transcendence".

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 11:16:41 AM PDT · 3,484 of 4,044
    kosta50 to AndrewC
    My point is that 1 Peter is talking of utterances, not Jesus, and the English translations (except those totally doctirnally tainited, such as some fundie BA version such as 21KJV) use the lower case "w" in for the word  (utterance)
     
    through the living and enduring word of God. [NIV]
    through the living and enduring word of God [NASB]
    through a word of God -- living and remaining -- to the age; [Young's Literal]
    by the word of God who liveth and remaineth for ever. [Douay-Rheims]
    by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. [KJV]
    through the word of God which lives and abides forever [NKJV]
    through the living and enduring word of God [HCSB]
    Do this because God has given you new birth by his message that lives on forever. [CEV] [dosen't even mention the word "word"!]
    through the living and abiding word of God [ESV]

    So, you are saying all of these are wrong...yet the Bible is inerrant. Brilliant/s.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 10:37:33 AM PDT · 3,483 of 4,044
    kosta50 to Diamond
    Well, I guess you rolled right through that tag

    Sorry, it was late. You are right.

  • Did Mary Have Other Children?

    06/17/2011 6:11:45 AM PDT · 542 of 1,026
    kosta50 to Cronos; boatbums; Natural Law; MarkBsnr; Titanites; James C. Bennett; LeGrande
    botabums to Cronos: It looks like your lil' buddy Cronos could use some of that thar edumacation. His needle is stuck on perseverating Quix about people supposedly tied around his neck for stupid things they have said in the past and also PNSN for the wrong accusations of Islamist behavior. :o)

    Cronos to boatbums: It's amazing how contradictory your posts are -- not only on religion but also on mundane matters. On the one hand "crib, crub, ENOUGH, no personal remarks" and one the other hand your posts do the same (Kosta's got a nice list of these too). Aren't those posts hypocritical?...

    I see that even with my absence, when there are no agnostics or atheists to badger, Christians—left to their own devices—just smother each other with the love of Christ. Aaaah, that wonderful agape at work...2,000 years, bonefires, daggers and counting... :)

    What does that Bible verse say "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” [Matthew 18:20]? Musthave meant someone else...

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 5:54:23 AM PDT · 3,476 of 4,044
    kosta50 to AndrewC
    The Bible is not in error. Your attempted disarticulation is

    It is you who isnists the translation, written under "inspiration", is in error.

    Incorruptible. Can't you read?

    I can read, I just wasn't aware that anything divine "procreated" or had "seed".

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 5:45:42 AM PDT · 3,475 of 4,044
    kosta50 to boatbums; Diamond
    The archaeological record has proven it, the historical record has proven it and the written testimonies have been preserved for all this time. Not only that, we have the witness of the very lives of the Apostles and disciples from the first century both in the Bible and in extraneous writings of early church fathers.

    To the contrary, boatbums, on all accounts.

    An honest, sincere study of the accuracy of the Bible and the beginnings of the Christian faith will reward the honest seeker with the undeniable truth he is searching for. I know it is true and I am not alone. That leap that you fear is not such a huge chasm as you imagine.

    A Muslim would have said nothing different. Maybe he or she would be willing to strap some dynamite and become "martyred" for that faith. What does that "prove"? That their faith is "true"? Hardly! Dying for one's beliefs does no such thing.

    Nor does personal testimony. Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true. How do we know if something is "true" or "real"? For real things you don't need a leap of faith. It affects everyone, and not just the "elect" few: if you jump you will fall, if you try to walk on water you will sink, if you touch a hot stove top you will be hurt, etc.

    Reality does not distinguish between believers and nonbelievers, nor does it require—never mind demand!—that you believe in it a priori in order to effect you!

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/17/2011 5:21:34 AM PDT · 3,474 of 4,044
    kosta50 to boatbums
    No, I watched the whole interview. At 3:44, Dawkins says "possibility" of a superior intelligence. To me this is no different than religious speculations and Dawkins allowed himself to be drawn into it. No different than reading Isaac Asimov's Sci-Fi books.

    We have difficulty, it seems, accepting the world as it appears (to us) without adding to it our own "explanation" as to why it is the way it is. The world looks, smells and sounds a lot different to different species then it does to us, and their reality is quite different from ours.

    We just have difficulty saying "As of this moment, we don't know." We succumb to our fancy and create answers. Dawkins obviously succumbed to his, at least for a moment.

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/16/2011 10:08:24 PM PDT · 3,470 of 4,044
    kosta50 to Diamond
    Manuscript evidence for superior New Testament reliability

    Well, Josephus' calling Jesus the Messiah is no more than 20-30 years after the fact, yet it is an unreliable forgery because a Pharisee would not call Jesus the Anointed One. The reason the Bible is so scrutinized is because it makes fantastic claims! When we read the Odyssey, we don't have to believe that Hydra really existed! But when you claim that people who have been dead for days get up and walk away as if nothing happened...that is a slightly different ball of wax.

    Well then, Acts of Pilate/Gospel of Nicodemus. should be right up your alley.

    Why should I believe them? Mid second century, Medieval forgery? LOL. Does that meet "corroborated" evidence?

  • When Atheists Attack (Each Other)

    06/16/2011 9:42:09 PM PDT · 3,467 of 4,044
    kosta50 to boatbums

    Also, the wekaness of Ben’s argument (if I can call it that) is that he uses the argument from ignorance — if science can’t answer it, that “proves” the religious explanation. Wrong.