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You should remove post #174 as well, if you're going to remove my reply to it...

Please do try to be evenhanded.

Go ahead...I'm honored that you saved them.

You tried to get me banned because I exposed you as a racist, and you didn't cotton to that. You then told the admin mod that I was "stalking" you when I told you that I didn't think the admin mod liked the fact that you were lying to try to get me banned because you didn't like the opinions that I was expressing. You lied.

It didn't work. Now the admin mod knows you're a liar. So does everyone else reading this thread.

I didn't originally post to you, nor did I mention you by name, but you responded to my post. Should I tell the admin mod that you are stalking me? Or do you think that maybe you should just refrain from posting to me if you don't like me?

"I support viewpoint discrimination, but try to maintain a civil level of discourse."

I guess viewpoint discrimination is easier and less mentally taxing than actual debate and trying to see the other person's point of view.

DonaldDuke, Dane, Cyborg and other nasties have brought down the level of discourse on this site, and it's a shame, really, because it just doesn't have to be that way...

Your whining to the admin mods did no good. Still fishing?

"In a nutshell, we at FR do not support viewpoint discrimination."

There are many people here who support viewpoint discrimination, and flame those who don't jump on whatever the bandwagon du jour is. It's gotten so unpleasant that I don't visit as often as I used to...

"On the other hand, the mods can be a little nuts sometime."

Agreed. Sometimes some nasty freeper will accuse one of "stalking" or some such nonsense, in an effort to get one banned, and the admin mods jump down your throat before investigating and finding out that the complainer is a liar. They do apologize when they are wrong, though.

"Deputy Wiberg lost control of his vehicle which drifted into oncoming traffic. "

Was the guy that he hit injured?

"I don't think so. This isn't you, according to your claim, so there's no reason I would be posting the links with her full name on here. "

If you aren't going to post the links to posts that you claim are from me, then I am left with the conclusion that you know I didn't post those quotes, and are just lying to try to discredit someone who disagrees with your position that it's okay to abuse prisoners.

Put up or shut up.

"I'll take your word for it. Must be some other Henrietta :)."

Feel free to post the links...

"Do you recognize these quotes:


"The so-called "War on Terrorism" is a misnomer. It should be named the "War on Freedom."

"All I know is, even if Hilary Clinton runs against Bush, I will not vote for him a second time. Holding my nose the first time was bad enough. I knew he was a globalist and would sell us out. But I never imagined he would become an out and out fascist."

Pin the sigs on, there's a good girl ;)."

No, I don't recognize them. Not only did I not "hold my nose" and vote for Bush, I actively worked for his election.

You seem to be trying very hard to discredit me in order to avoid answering the question: How does the sexual abuse and humiliation of Iraqui prisoners make Americans safer?

Your post fails to explain to us why stripping prisoners naked and taking trophy photos of them in humiliating positions protects American lives. Other ways exist of "breaking" prisoners without making us look like the savages that we just dethroned in Iraq. Again, no explanations, just another insult from you.

It appears as if your reading comprehension is nil. Just answer the question, if you can.

"Sigh. The explanation is in my original post to you, as you probably know, if you're not a vegetable. But I don't have any interest in "debating" someone who looks like a member of the chemtrail crowd ;). Now go away."

This is a public forum, and if you don't want a debate, then you can simply stop replying to my posts, but I will not "go away."

You still have not explained to us why stripping prisoners naked and taking trophy photos of them in humiliating positions protects American lives. Other ways exist of "breaking" prisoners without making us look like the savages that we just dethroned in Iraq. Again, no explanations, just another insult from you.

"Ah. You don't read so well? Thought so."

Still no explanation, just another insult. I take it that you agree with what I posted, then, DavidDuke?

"Kill them on the battlefield by the millions, I'm OK with it. Use prisoners to star in one's own personal sado-sexual porn films? No way."

You hit it on the head! I completely agree!

"Actually, the resaon (sic) no explanation has been given is that if you didn't understand what I was saying to you, you have an IQ of about four. That's slightly below par, even for the segment of FR who's routinely outraged on behalf of the Islamic terrorists."

No, the reason you gave no explanation for your claim that abusing Iraqui prisoners somehow protects American lives is because you don't have one.

If you don't understand the question, and can't give an answer, then I suggest that apart from being a lawless thug, *you* probably have the subhuman IQ, not I.

Those of us human enough to be outraged at the conduct of those who are responsible for the abuse of Iraquis feel this way because we expect more of our countrymen, not because we spend our time being "routinely outraged," as you so patronizingly put it.

I'd tell you to "Go back and try again, Sir" but you don't deserve the courtesy of being addressed thusly.

We're all still waiting for your explanation of how humiliating Iraqui prisoners makes Americans safer. You'll probably continue to duck the issue by claiming that we all wouldn't understand, and continue to insult the intelligence of those who want an explanation for your earlier post. I think what you really meant to say is that the mistreatment of Iraqui prisoners makes you *feel good*, and so nothing should be done to curb it. Good people like me and others who feel sickened by these photos think people like you are no better than the thugs in Iraq whose regime we toppled.

"Most reasonable people expressed disgust by the sight of the bound, nude, hooded men in American custody being forced to degrade themselves sexually."

Sadly, some here on FR had much the same reaction as Rush. One depraved soul here on this site actually claimed that those who were debasing Iraqui prisoners were "protecting American lives." I asked him to explain how mistreating prisoners in our charge protected Americans. Predictably, no explanation has been given.

People who think that this is "no big deal" are sick, sick, sick.

"This was done to save American lives, an objective seemingly quite unimportant to a great many people here."

Please explain to those of us on this thread who have a shred of human decency (note: this leaves you out) what humiliation of Iraqui prisoners has to do with saving American lives.

"Now excuse me, while I go puke."

Yes, you are a puke. As I said, there is NO excuse for this behavior.

"I'm having difficulty caring. The man on the leash is an enemy combatant - not someone who forgot to buckle up before driving to Kroger."

As one earlier poster said, we judge ourselves by OUR standards, not the standards of the enemy which we are fighting.

We treat our prisoners humanely, period. There is no excuse for this behavior, period. Would you want OUR soldiers treated this way, merely because they are enemy combatants?

"What a moron. Make an example of her."

I hope she goes to prison for a long, long, time. No punishment can compensate for the horrible image she has given our military.

Just goes to show, give people power and they WILL abuse it.

The picture at the top of this thread makes me want to vomit.

For every person that says that we don't needs guns to protect ourselves from our own government, this picture proves otherwise. We are no different from the Iraquis with respect to what happens to people when one group gets to play "prison guard" and one group gets to play "prisoner." The guards become oppressors, and the prisoners become the oppressed.

As a side note, where was the outrage in the Arab community when Saddaam was doing worse than this to his OWN people??