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Posts by FloreatIacobus

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  • The Facts and Stats on "33,000 Denominations"

    01/25/2008 5:05:59 AM PST · 34 of 35
    FloreatIacobus to Ransomed
    What two countries don’t have a Roman Catholic “denomination”?

    I'm guessing that one is North Korea - the last Bishop of Pyongyang vanished quite some time ago, and if he were still alive would be in his 90s.
  • Atheist Sues To Prevent Son From Attending Catholic School

    01/07/2008 4:59:30 AM PST · 29 of 30
    FloreatIacobus to NYer

    I’d like to know what happened at the wedding. If I remember correctly, in cases of mixed-marriages if the Church was to perform the solemnities then she requested that the non-Catholic had to agree that any children be raised as Catholics - this may now be out of date (unfortunately).

  • Vatican clarifying Latin Mass rules

    01/04/2008 1:50:04 AM PST · 50 of 78
    FloreatIacobus to topher
    Basically, the messed up AP is claiming this is a liberalization of the Roman Catholic Church by allowing the Tridentine Rite...

    No, the A.P. is claiming that the R.C.C. has liberalised use of the T.L.M. In practical terms this is utterly undeniable.
  • Episcopal leader defends gay bishops

    01/02/2008 8:10:35 AM PST · 22 of 43
    FloreatIacobus to rovenstinez
    Does anyone else think that this position might have configured in the mind of Tony Blair and that is why he converted to Roman Catholic?

    No.

    As Prime Minister, Mr. Blair introduced civil-partnerships for British gays, trumpeted the development of "gay rights" as a major achievement of his administration, and refused to allow government ministers a free-vote over forcing adoption agencies to place children with gay couples (an issue where the Catholics were lobbying hard to allow such a free-vote). The history of his relationship with Rome is pretty clearly familially based.
  • MPs Challenge 'Doctrinaire' Bishops

    01/02/2008 8:03:12 AM PST · 17 of 30
    FloreatIacobus to Mrs. Don-o
    As liberty declines, it is only too typical for the state to subsidize and control the Church. One has only to think of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Assoication, and the Russian Orthodox Church in the Soviet Union, to realize that it is standard for atheistic communist governments to tolerate, and even pay for, religious institutions.

    The whole point is to keep a tight rein on the clergy, maintain state censorship over seminaries and other religious institutions, and keep Almighty God firmly subordinated to the Ministry of Religious Activities.


    Looking at your post, I take it that you have no knowledge of the Church of England.
  • MPs Challenge 'Doctrinaire' Bishops

    01/02/2008 3:18:06 AM PST · 15 of 30
    FloreatIacobus to glide625
    As commie one-state secularized as England is, I’m surprised they haven’t forced the shut down of not only the schools but the churches as well.

    If a place where religious education is mandatory, where faith schools are paid for out of taxation, where Bishops sit in the legislature &c.&c. is "commie one-state secularized", I hate to think what the U.S. is.
  • (Cardinal) Mahony assaulted near L.A.'s cathedral

    12/05/2007 2:44:04 AM PST · 34 of 37
    FloreatIacobus to NYer
    Mandatory retirement is only 4 years away.

    That will be an interesting one - His Emminence has to offer his resignation, but traditionally Cardinal Archbishops are kept on until they're 80 unless there's reason not to...let's keep an eye on what His Holiness does with this case.
  • Two Female Catholic Priests Conduct First Mass (coffee mugs down alert!)

    12/03/2007 8:55:20 AM PST · 20 of 92
    FloreatIacobus to NYer
    The pastor of the church says it was a fitting place for an event where hope and understanding were very much alive.

    Well, that's the most accurate statements in the whole article - a Unitarian chapel is far more fitting for this event than a Catholic church because there was nothing at all Catholic about it, just like there's nothing at all Catholic about these ladies.
  • Incredibile! Italian Diocese Settles the Problem: All Traditional Masses Forbidden

    11/29/2007 2:51:00 AM PST · 18 of 38
    FloreatIacobus to my_pointy_head_is_sharp
    Just because the mass is in Latin doesn't mean that the priest must turn his back to the congregation. They can modify that part of the ritual, and he can face the congregation. I don't know that I'd like to look at the priest's back for an hour.

    The T.L.M. rubrics presuppose Mass celebrated 'facing the Altar', actually the N.O. rubrics do as well (though very few churches still do so). Mass is best celebrated with Priest and congregation together facing a common focus (God) as the then Cardinal Ratzinger explained in "The Spirit of the Liturgy".
  • Cardinal urged Blair not to reveal conversion

    11/26/2007 3:45:53 AM PST · 25 of 30
    FloreatIacobus to SaltyJoe
    Show of hands...how many would love to read his autobiography on just such a spiritual journey?

    Count me out - I wouldn't believe a single word of it, just as I haven't believed a single word he's said since about '95.

    Blair is not to be trusted.
  • Pope to discuss influx of Anglicans

    11/26/2007 3:39:26 AM PST · 8 of 8
    FloreatIacobus to SaltyJoe
    I wonder if the all of the tabloid news of the British royal family has anything to do with Anglicans moving away from a secular based spiritual guide?

    The Monarch only has a role in the Church of England - there is no connexion with any other part of the Anglican Communion. So I suspect that it has absolutely nothing to do with it at all.
  • Pope to purge the Vatican of modern music

    11/26/2007 3:36:26 AM PST · 44 of 49
    FloreatIacobus to xzins
    Handel’s music would also be very Lutheran.

    That just might be a show-stopper.


    Was his setting of Carmelite Vespers Lutheran? Or his Dixit Dominus? Messiah was written when he was settled in England (after the Anglican Chandos Anthems), so if anything would be Anglican rather than Lutheran.
  • Pope to purge the Vatican of modern music

    11/23/2007 6:43:16 AM PST · 10 of 49
    FloreatIacobus to Greg F
    It seems to me that a liturgy can be so out of date that it is an impediment to real worship.

    I agree - and the new Missal (issued 1969) was just such an out of date liturgy by about 1970.

    The point is not about old/new music - it's about proper and fitting music. Plainchant is not out of date because it has never been "in date", its timelessness is an essential part of it. I've attended Mass where Arvo Paert's Berliner Messe was sung as the Ordinary - this music was written around 1990 - modern music can be good.
  • Pope to purge the Vatican of modern music

    11/23/2007 6:38:52 AM PST · 9 of 49
    FloreatIacobus to Petrosius
    As for Handel's Hallelujah, being a fan of classical music, I am sure that Pope Benedict is a great fan. This does not mean that is should be sung at a liturgy. At a special concert in praise of God, by all means!

    Beat me to it - the Hallelujah Chorus, and indeed the whole of Messiah, is a gorgeous piece of music...but it is not liturgical music and would be utterly out of place at Mass.
  • Controversy over sale of Catholic high school in California

    11/22/2007 8:07:22 AM PST · 4 of 13
    FloreatIacobus to NYer
    SELL THE CATHEDRAL!

    As you say, the solution is quite simple.
  • Women priests and their continuing battle

    11/21/2007 3:13:22 AM PST · 52 of 59
    FloreatIacobus to AnalogReigns
    Last year I spoke to a Canon with the C-of-E (living here in America now) who told me he had once supported women's ordination, but now he has changed.

    This is the story which is never told. I was 12 when the vote went through, and not understanding the issues involved I supported it, along with hundreds of other people since then I have realised my error.
  • Women priests and their continuing battle

    11/21/2007 3:09:55 AM PST · 51 of 59
    FloreatIacobus to NYer
    There has certainly been a softening in attitude. While many maintain that the Church never had the authority to tamper with the priesthood, nearly all acknowledge that women clergy have made a significant human contribution.

    What an utterly ridiculous article - packed full of errors. I'd expect better from The Daily Telegraph - their usual religion journalist is pretty good. The above is typical - acknowledging that priestesses have pastoral skills is utterly irrelevant to the objections which opponents have. It's not that we think that these women are bad, or that they're useless - rather we simply think that it is impossible for them to receive Holy Orders, they are not Priests. Recognising that we've got some terrific pastoral women in our parishes is not a softening of attitude - I've known a few excellent women, but I don't think that they are Priests.
  • Women priests and their continuing battle

    11/21/2007 3:04:07 AM PST · 50 of 59
    FloreatIacobus to wideawake
    More people go to church in Birmingham, AL on a Sunday than in all of England.

    Are you sure? Wikipedia gives the population of Birmingham, AL, as a tad bit over 200,000 - both the C.ofE. and the R.C.C. get within spitting distance either way of a million people each Sunday...which is ten times the whole population.
  • Bad New Plans to Rewrite the Constitution (Barf Alert)

    11/20/2007 3:37:27 AM PST · 24 of 28
    FloreatIacobus to HuntsvilleTxVeteran

    Some folk just don’t know a good thing when they see it.

    Being in England where we have a very different constitutional structure and history, I certainly wouldn’t propose that we adopt anything like the U.S. Constitution - but is strikes me that there is little more ideally suited to the governance of the U.S. The Constitution is central to American self-identity, and as such to the whole construct of the American nation.

    It does reflect the times in which it was written, but it has also shown itself to be flexible to the times as they progress.

    Major constitutional revision would merely open a massive can of worms and divide the nation into opposing camps as various “rights” are supported by each side. Plus as the Blair years have shown us over here, when it comes to constitutional tinkering the Law of Unintended Consequences is a most powerful beast.

    Speaking from one of the very few countries left without a written constitution - I happily say that yours is easily one of the best, and doesn’t need to be played around with.

  • Brutal, or Just Plain Ugly?

    11/16/2007 2:09:59 AM PST · 30 of 36
    FloreatIacobus to claudiustg
    It looks like someplace you’d go for Carousel when your Lifeclock is blinking.

    Best analogy yet.