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" did read your post. I was suggesting why you come across as a liberal, in spite of your assertion that you are not one: You repeat their baseless assertions. "

As for that, yes i have a viewpoint that spread wider than just conservatism...The problem with america's politic? Too divided...Not able to recognize the truth if another political party tells it... But that's not the point, just consider me in no political scheme...

"You have believed the liberal/anti-Catholic/anti-Christian lies"

Haha! No i believe in what i read from books, from science, not from the church...Historical facts are facts... And by the way i never conceded anything about brown!! Again i never even read the da vinci code!!! I just think it is childish to bash a movie based on fiction! You don't seem to realize that Dan Brown is simply a marketing genius! Most people understood and will see his movie as a pure entertainment! Bashing on the movie only gives credibility to it, as if we had something to fear about it! That was my point...


"You disparage and slander our faith, repeating the most baseless, heinous, vicious lies, not out of malice, but willful ignorance. If you do not hold the hatred which Dan Brown evinces, then why do persist in repeating his lies?"

which lies! which heinous statement? I asked question in the first place and it turned out in a hysteric debate over the fact that I am liberal or i am the devil! Gees calm down!

Anyways, this leads nowhere... You guys have done what you shouldn't and it is to spread the words about the movie...Now because of all that fuss you made about it, people are more interested and atheist will start to thing there is some truth in the novel or the movie as they see the church fears it...You guys are no better than Muslims, you are extremists of the church, you can't take the fact that somebody criticize the church without screaming and invoking the devil...This sounds like brainwashing to me! There is no such thing as the church...Only pure love exist, maybe you will find out someday...

Bless you ( and that is not a mere politeness neither, i really do mean it regardless of what i have written above)

ÈThis post is exactly what I was talking about, when I cautioned you against parroting stupid things liberals say.

>> So basically you are returning the slap on the cheek, as your post suggest? <<

Nothing Campion writes accuses Dan Brown of genocide, systematic destruction of dozens of other cultures, hiring murderers, etc. So how is Campion returning the slap on the cheek by defending criticisms of Brown?

>> And yes at some point in history, the church was an entity with those "qualities" [a group of sado-masochistic, murderous nutcases] you pointed in your post... <<

You claim that our religion was a group of sado-masochistic, murderous nutcases? Is that any way to make friends and influence people? Your claim is hateful, ignorant, slanderous, rash, and just plain belligerent. Why should we let you hang around with us? So you can demean our beliefs?

And then, after being so rude, offensive and obnoxious, you, of course, throw in the "Good afternoon" and "Best regards." How can you say, "Best regards," while demonstrating such a thorough contempt for the people you are writing to? ''

Okay so you are still stuck with the ideas that i am liberal??? Please review the other post i sent you...

And campion obviously doesn't accuse ban drown of genocide, but explained that he took pride and joy in expressing a strong criticism against the author, getting the slap back, even if it is of a lesser impact...but i wanted to see what he had to say about it...And obviously you are again only commenting on the negative side of my post without considering that i have acknowledged that other people gave me answers that already satisfied my curiosity...

And yes your/my religion has made BIG BIG BIG mistakes in the past (note i used the word PAST and i already told that this religion is now one of the most respected, man...) So yes the church has been really bad back in those days...killing anybody coming with an idea that the world was round, hordes of man fighting each other for the love of god...please read a bit of history! What is so wrong in what i am saying? the history remains history and yes the church made some really bad choices in the past, you know these are facts, not any kind of way to demean your belief!!!

And if i persist on my good afternoon and best regards, it is because we are over the Internet and to me this just seems like a discussion like any other...there is no hate or rudeness in my post such as what you claimed, you only see it that way ...you seem to think i am the devil!!!

You know i have belief too and i went through an educational system, and i can/am wrong in my posts, so no need to jump on your horse and scream names like these! Just tell me where i am wrong and that will be it! I never pretended i hold the only and single truth! As a saying: the wise man seeks the truth, the ignorant already found it...

Oh and by the way, i followed your tips and instead of going to Da vinci code, i went and saw: see no evil...that is a movie you would like best to bash on! The psychopath killer in that movie is a true catholic church believer and is sent from god to kill woman, as they have the evil in their eyes, so he removes it from the victims head...Did you heard of that movie?

So again, have a great afternoon and please accept my best regards!

Good morning lil friend! :D

obviously used car salesman is nothing to be proud about, i am more talking about the industrial business, you know...if this is still not looking good well than i obviously have nothing to say more about the case, but please do not go right away to the conclusion of used car salesman as it has nothing to do with the industrial sales...

Best regards.

"History" has nothing to do with the latest tissue of lies coming out of Hollywood, sorry.

Please explain.

"Maybe you should consider that (a) this movie both "takes pride and joy" and hopes to turn a huge profit off of slandering the most deeply-held beliefs of 1.3 billion Christians and (b) falsely characterizes an orthodox organization of lay Catholics as a group of sado-masochistic, murderous nutcases."

Good afternoon,
So basically you are returning the slap on the cheek, as your post suggest? Isn't that against your belief? And yes at some point in history, the church was an entity with those "qualities" you pointed in your post...Things change and now it is one of the most respected religion, but one must not forget history...Anyways, other posters answered with great arguments already.

Best regards.

Thanks a lot Dangus! This is a great explanation! Well be ensure that the above "why so many people..." had a tongue in cheek kind of humor...A bit crude and of bad taste but like you saw, some people answered with great post making me understand why some are simply bashing without necessarily taking pride in it... That was my bad!

And be sure i am always sincere in my forms of politeness (always), but i can have a weird way to express myself, as i am not yet perfect in English and i understand that...This is why you don't see me posting direct insults against people, i don't believe in that...

Also i should change my nick because it leads to confusion! "Astoundedlib" stands for astoundedliberty...should start to write some stuff in my account information!!

As for the passive aggressive thing, i am a business man...i deal everyday with the US, and i can tell you guys are the best for that, and that is actually one of the best strategy in the sales world, so somehow, even if some might not like it, it's a way to express yourself in a right way.

As for the purpose of this site, if you take a look at all of my post you will find that i am actually "open minded"...By that i mean that if somebody gives an irrefutable arguments, i will now give it a lot more thoughts and accept it...So i might give as much pro conservatism argument as much as dems or libs...As the typical Canadian, i am not one sided in politics and i don't judge somebody over his political belief (not saying here it is better this way)

So there you go, and like i said i hope we might have interesting peaceful debate in the near future!

Best regards.

"I don't know if 'pride and joy' is correct.

Content aside, any good movie can be art. And it can affect you unlike other kinds of art.

A bad movie is garbage.

Almost all movies are productions of very large corporations so profit is always part of the equation. They are products to be consumed from the corporate perspective.

With a bad movie, the corporation stole your money. With a little thought, they might have made an adequate movie and given you value for your money."

Good afternoon, that is an interesting point of view!
Thanks!

Good morning,
I think you are right, a lot of people won't bother to go and see it on week 2...But the scenario i am thinking about is : you have the first batch of people who read the book and had great expectation who are/will be deceived...And then, after we hear all those bad critics, you will have a wave of people who will still go just for curiosity and will think it is not as bad and will exaggerate their enthusiasm... i have only read one objective critic yet who was explaining his point with precise arguments and gave 7/10...So by reading all of the comments on this site, i have no expectations at all...

Best regards.

Good morning sir,
So everybody must have the same point of view and agree on evertyhing? please tell me where i am being that aggressive? Maybe you could answer me on private mail as it is a bit off topic...

Best regards.

good morning all,
i was wondering why so many people take pride and joy bashing on movies? Isn't that what we used to do maybe in grade 3?

Best regards.

Good morning,
i am not sure what to think about this article...It looks like bull sh*t...Too much subjective words and the fact that canada has been long ago included in Nafta...Looks like a blend of the past and the present...Will wait and see.

Best regards.

"Glass houses, stones and all that, you know? "

No...

well thanks for the clarifications! I understand a bit more now! But i hope you understand that somebody who can get past the quality or the writing skill of an author is not a complete retarded!

Best regards and looking forward to see you at the theater Friday! :P

Will Ron be taking the evening shift?

No actually, he's having an intimate moment with Jean Reno...Wondering how much the latter will make out of the movie!

Best regards.

Will do! ;-)

But i thought people were a bit more open minded, and guessed that a mistake can happen, and i thought the spell check was considered a bit hypocrite as anybody could look intelligible just because of a button...Guess i was wrong!

Hey check the nice spelling in that post! ;)

Best regards.

Haha! Well i sure do like your quality of writing! Very entertaining...Now let's clear something up. My poor quality of writing is in fact because English is my second language. As for the book, i didn't read Da vinci code yet, only "angel and demons" (some kind of prequel to the current subject) and in french. It is not suppose to make a difference but the emotions were actually more detailed...But in da vinci code, from the numerous people who enjoyed it while not being complete dumb a*s, they told me the plot was of much more interest than it's writing quality...So that's my point, it is your choice to base your conclusions on the quality of writing but it is not the only thing to look after in a book, there is also the story itself! The only way you can get an opinion of yours is by reading the book and go and see the movie!

Best regards.

"I'm surprised the poster stuck it out that long"

Why's that?

That is a good objective post finally, on why the movie is maybe a flop! Thanks! By the way, i like your french nickname! I am french myself!

Best regards.

The book is long and too much dialogue and details, even for me. I felt many of them were unnecessary.

That is from what i heard the beauty of the book!

Best regards.

Hahah! a bit of humor is always good! But reading 30 pages of a book and making conclusion is a bit childish... And if you didn't understand what i meant in my post above that explains why you didn't complete the reading of the book...

Best regards.